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Ok, got it. Sounds like a combination of: - short run distance - venting using the stack (which means the run from flange to stack is the trap arm) - syphon action ... means I can pick option 2 and just go direct to existing wye... even at a 6" drop over 4 1/2 feet. Cheers!

My concern is too much slope, since I have to angle around the joists. Liquids moving faster than solids. 4 foot run with a 6 inch drop isn't recommended, from what I can tell.

Thanks Terry. By "any angle" does that mean that I can ignore the 1/4 slope, because it's a short run?

I am looking to move a toilet on a bungalow main floor. Currently the drain sits 1' from the stack and drops straight into a double 45 wye that's about 5 1/2 feet off the basement floor. New toilet location is about 4 1/2 feet away, as the crow flies, but does not have a clear path through the...