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Discussion in 'Drain Cleaning' started by MACPLUMB 777, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    Hey Jerry I heard that their battery powered Pony and Stallion have all kinds of torque over the AC powered units..
  2. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    Yes they do if you hook up a 1065 to a STALLION battery model with the 1065 running it will stop the 1065 and make it run backwards,
    and the battery powered COLT can run a week snaking drains on one charge !
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  3. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    Trojan battery powered machines are missing something that you cannot run any other machine without
    extension cords !
    So when you are up to your ankles in sewer water, there is no grounded plug around,
    or you just want to save time setting up and reloading your equipment
    Trojan stallion or colt is the way to go !
  4. AssTyme

    AssTyme Plumber

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    4X the price gets you 20X more machine :)
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I bought my PowerSnake in 1975 for about $1,500 with 3 drums and cables. I just replaced its frame because the motor mount finally rusted off, and I have only replaced about 5 cables, so my amortization costs are very low, particularly since I charge a fee every time I use it. Other companies now have their own versions which look just like mine.
  6. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    At 7 years service life to a cable I guess it's safe to assume you aren't keeping the machine really busy with work...
  7. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    Yes professional plumbers that do drain cleaning for a living and not as a sideline when
    nothing else is happening run approx 5 to 10 drains a day and the best are lucky to get a
    year or so out of a main line cable before it becomes too soft or worn out !
    I am sad to say I do not see any one using a power snake that much when there are better
    designed drain cleaning machines with power cable feeds etc. That Williams does not
    have and by the way I have their current catalog in front of me
    I believe in knowing not only the products I sell but also what others are selling also !
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  8. AssTyme

    AssTyme Plumber

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    You would be a very busy boy doing 5 - 10 main line jobs every day ! Hard to believe one could make a main line cable last one year with 2500+ jobs.
  9. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    It is fairly easy to do that many calls a day when you are working at a drain cleaning

    service company only, with 24 hour a day 7 days a week on call service times !

    As for example Roto Rooter was back in the old days of the 70's and before

    and if you are a true drain professional you know how to take care of your machines

    as while as your cables after all they are your bread and butter !
  10. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I do not abuse my cables. But I do not consider sewer and drain cleaning my "bread and butter". If all I did was sewers and drains, then I might do 10 a day, but then I would not do the other things which really pay my bills.
  11. AssTyme

    AssTyme Plumber

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    I think 10 drain calls a day would pay most anybodies bills ???
  12. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Not when the other calls are more profitable. I am a plumber who does drain cleaning, NOT a drain cleaner who does plumbing. And they have to be very minor drain jobs to do 10 in a day. The guys doing 10 a day are usually charging $59.99, or less, a drain. My MINIMUM is twice that and the one I did this morning ran $650.00.
  13. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    I used to charge twice that and still managed to do 10 or more drain calls a day and yes some of them were easy but again some of them were more time consuming and i only got four or
    five calls done those days,
    i have also spent two or more days working on the same drain problem which evolved
    digging and either repair or replacing the complete sewer line, for example one time
    280' x 6" clay sewer main for a 400 unit apartment complex.

    And yes i am also a MASTER PLUMBER who does drains but I also know and respect the
    man and women who only do drain work for a living !
  14. Hairyhosebib

    Hairyhosebib New Member

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    I am curious if your company has a urinal auger like the one General Wire makes? It sure would be nice if some company would make one so that it is attached to a leader like a Marco toilet auger and would have a removable head so that essentially the cables could be hooked together so that it could go further down the line once the cable has cleared the trap.

    I am also curious about the idea of joining say, 10 ft lengths of cables together instead of a 100 ft. You could make the cable as long as you wanted within reason. If you kink a section you would only have to replace a section. I would prefer the snap lock. The one thing I don't like about a Spartan is they use roll pins to join cables and heads. I am not a fan of Ridgid at all, they use a quarter turn screw to join cables and heads. They are not a very good machine at all. This is the choice of the day shift plumbing shop at ASU. You should see all the machines setting around with tags on them in an un operable condition. It does not help that there are 15 guys that don't care how they are taken care of either. On the night shift I finally got my boss to buy a Spartan 100, 1065 and a 2001.
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  15. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    ANY cable connection is a potential failure point, which is why I NEVER even consider a sectional cable. Besides the need to have an "elephant trunk" sticking out behind it to control the cable. I have had my current cables for over 10 years, proper use will usually prevent any damage to them. My PowerSnake also uses roll pins, but they may be the safest way to connect cables and heads together. Bolts and "snap pins" can self disengage, or break, under the right conditions.
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  16. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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  17. freeflow

    freeflow Semi retired master plumber

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    That was when we were young and bold , now we old and our nuts and backs are cold , thinking about taking a my tanna m661 in one piece(after 45 yo I wised up and took it apart) and up on a roof makes me sweat in my sleep
  18. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    Yes me too these days !
  19. Hackney plumbing

    Hackney plumbing Homeowner

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    So shoot me some prices on a 100' color camera that can record to my laptop and I can use my laptop as the monitor. I would also need a locator and the camera would need to have a sonde.

    I might even could come get it and see it work first. A business trip to Houston sounds good to me.
  20. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; I have run millions of drains all over so. Calif. And the northwest pacific for more then

    30 years !

    Figuring a 200 day work year, just doing one million works out to about 170 drains a day. You must be exhausted.
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