Help no plumber an the water is staying on

Discussion in 'Shower & bathtub Forum & Blog' started by jokerswild, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. jokerswild

    jokerswild New Member

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    Jumped into the shower to change a diverter from the faucet in the picture.

    I thought after I removed the screw from the clear ball that as long as the nozzle stayed down the water would stay off. Haha -- yeah! I'm a dumbass!!! I dont know what the heck i was thinking. When I unscrewed the fitting from the pipe the water started gushing out. I had to cut the water off from the main in the front of the house -- like I should have done in the first place. That ball thing and a gasket fell out. When I look in the faucet pipe the springs are still in there. Sooooooo.......

    After reinstalling the diverter (the thing you push below the ball to make the shower come on) ( im not even sure its called a diverter)I tried to install the ball thing and gasket like pictured in the plumbing book I have. Well when I cut the water back on at the road the water started pouring out of the tub faucet without actually being turned on. The diffuser is fixed but I can't get the water turned off -- unless its off at the main --

    Did I screw up reinstalling the ball thingy or mess something up when it gushed out?Why is the water coming out without being turned on and What parts do I need -- it is a Delta.

    Thanks in advance for the help.HELP MEEEEE

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  2. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    This is a link to a parts diagram for your valve.
    http://www.deltafaucet.com/media/Product_Tech_Docs/Parts_Diagram/Models_622_635_636_641_642_5985.pdf

    In taking it apart under pressure you lost some essential parts. The actual cut off seal is achieved with rubber seats that go on top of the springs and seal against the ball. At this point I would recommend that you get the delta kit that contains new springs, seats, ball and cam seal, and install them. Hopefully the ball has not tried to shear the springs and damaged the seat bore.

    Seeing as you plumb like a bull in the china closet, I'll offer this additional advice...
    Be very careful if the locating pin for the ball and make sure that it is placed in the groove of the ball.
    Make sure that the kit you buy has the correct matching ball.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2008
  3. jokerswild

    jokerswild New Member

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    Thank you. This fixed my problem...I had the springs in there but not the rubber seats...Thanks again..:)
  4. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    You're welcome, Glad we could help!
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I hope by now you realized that the ring did NOT have to be removed to access the diverter. All you had to do was remove the handle, then the two plate screws and pull it off. Then the diverter was right there and accessible for replacement without turning off the water or flooding the room.
  6. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    I think at some point he figured that out! LOL
    Probably was pretty wet at the moment of enlightenment.
  7. jokerswild

    jokerswild New Member

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    HA... Yes i was scrambling to get to the main cut off..Anyhow thanks for the help..

    Nice forum too.
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