cleaner vs primer

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  1. steelers fan

    steelers fan In the Trades

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    i screwed up the other day redoing a retired union plumbers kitchen sink pipes at least i think.I accidentally grabbed a can of clear pvc cleaner I had on my truck thinking I had grabbed clear primer.I realised it after a couple of joints and switched over to primer.It was getting late so I left it for now but am going back tomorrow to cut those two fittings out and redo them correctly.But i figured id ask if you guys if these joints would actually fail,im sure they will but at the same time when reading the cans of cleaner and the primer they list the exact same ingredients.Anyone have any input on this?thanks



    p.s. brown can and yellow can i must be going colorblind
     

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  2. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    I wouldn't change it. Primer is similar to cleaner....just more agressive.
    Plenty of sprinkler pipe is installed with neither! For DWV, your joints should be fine.
     
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  4. asktom

    asktom Member

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    Primer has a dye in it so inspectors can tell it has been used. I agree no problem on DWV.
     
  5. steelers fan

    steelers fan In the Trades

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    thanks guys went there today and filled both sinks and let er run no problems Ive just never used cleaner at all before only had it cuz i got a lil sloppy with purple primer.No leaks and got to swap out the old globe valves under his sink too( no angle stops ).So it was a slow day but all good.Thanks for your help
     
  6. jetlag

    jetlag New Member

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    No Problem

    I wish I had a dollar for every pvc joint thats holding fine glued with only the cement. Ive been guilty few times myself even on supply pipes when in a tight and had no cleaner or primer . Ive never had a problem with that.
     
  7. steelers fan

    steelers fan In the Trades

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    I just left a house the other day where a guy used nothing but glue and before he got there the tub overflow and drain dripped after he left it poured;)
     
  8. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    The cleaner/primer not only takes the crud off, but also softens the surface a little so the cement can melt and fuse the pipe into the fitting better. I think it somewhat depends on how much of the solvent has evaporated out of your can (i.e. an almost empty can has probably lost a bunch of the solvent) - when new, probably won't notice much, but you are likely to if at the end.
     
  9. toolaholic

    toolaholic General Contractor Carpenter

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    You don't wan't that 2 AM CALL

    cut it out , it is not the same
     
  10. johnjh2o1

    johnjh2o1 Plumbing Contractor for 49 years

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    I have seen some so called plumbers mix some primer with the glue to give it the purple color.

    John
     
  11. toolaholic

    toolaholic General Contractor Carpenter

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    Cheaters never prosper !!
     
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