Superduper
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... no not what you think... this is a toilet discussion.
Well, we moved into a (new to us) home with no Toto in it... that had to change. The master bath was recently remodeled, but they put in an A/S Champion 4 toilet... workable but didn't flush all that well. Great... good excuse for a swap.
I've done Drake's before, but wanted the one-piece, and was gonna buy the Ultramax... till my wife complained about cleaning the sides of the toilet (who does that anyway), and so sprung another $100 for the Carlyle (with the skirt). Cool... simple install..
Well... and the point of this missive... the toilet skirt brings a lot of ceramic right near the wall. Unfortunately, it was right where the previously installed stub/out+stop was located. A one hour install now turned into a set of relatively simple, but time consuming process of moving the stop away from toilet skirt area -- including drywall which is my nemesis. And yes, the toto instructions gave guidelines on dimensions... but who reads these anyway?
So.. if you're considering a skirted toilet ... maybe any model that has a lot of wall real-estate taken up with the commode... look carefully at where the shutoff/stop is located, and (gasp!) read installation guidelines. Moving a stop is not difficult but not fun, and has little rewards other than you get your new commode.
All is good... toilet is wonderful (though about 3/4" lower than the Champion...), flushes well, and uses less water. A bit pricey, but wife (and I) are happy to be back on the Toto.
Well, we moved into a (new to us) home with no Toto in it... that had to change. The master bath was recently remodeled, but they put in an A/S Champion 4 toilet... workable but didn't flush all that well. Great... good excuse for a swap.
I've done Drake's before, but wanted the one-piece, and was gonna buy the Ultramax... till my wife complained about cleaning the sides of the toilet (who does that anyway), and so sprung another $100 for the Carlyle (with the skirt). Cool... simple install..
Well... and the point of this missive... the toilet skirt brings a lot of ceramic right near the wall. Unfortunately, it was right where the previously installed stub/out+stop was located. A one hour install now turned into a set of relatively simple, but time consuming process of moving the stop away from toilet skirt area -- including drywall which is my nemesis. And yes, the toto instructions gave guidelines on dimensions... but who reads these anyway?
So.. if you're considering a skirted toilet ... maybe any model that has a lot of wall real-estate taken up with the commode... look carefully at where the shutoff/stop is located, and (gasp!) read installation guidelines. Moving a stop is not difficult but not fun, and has little rewards other than you get your new commode.
All is good... toilet is wonderful (though about 3/4" lower than the Champion...), flushes well, and uses less water. A bit pricey, but wife (and I) are happy to be back on the Toto.
