mcat
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I've run into a snag with a rewiring project in my kitchen. The original wiring is old black almost asphalt like coated 2 wire wrapped in heavy amounts of brown paper that when stripped is just plastic/rubber coated white/black wires without ground. I'm replacing all of it with new romex with a ground.
The issue is that in one particular part of the home there is no feasible way to pull new romex down to the wall switch so the wiring has been reversed in the order it comes into the boxes. I'll do my best to explain below.
Currently there is a ceiling box that has a constant hot feed running into it that is tied into another 3 wire feed ( red/black/white) and that wire feeding down the power to an adjacent wall switch from the ceiling which is using one of the black wires (wire nutted ) as a constant hot for another light switch in the same box running to another room. So one single pole switch and a 3-way switch in one box. From that wall switch another 3 way wire is running to an adjacent wall switch on the opposite side of the room.
Since I can't run the wires to the initial wall switch with the single pole and 3-way switch from the ceiling I went in the opposite direction but at the cost of not having a constant hot wire in the initial wall box for the single pole switch so I'm not able to add a constant hot to the other switch for the other room, or so I think?
I'm wondering if there is any way I can wire nut one of the black wires from the 3 way switch that used to have a constant hot in it and pull to the other single pole switch in the outlet that does not have a constant hot feed to it?
Alternatively I have two other options and I'd like opinions on this since I can't make up my mind which way to go.
There is another old asphalt coated romex wire that goes from the switch panel with the single pole / 3-way switch that I could re-connect to a outlet box I have already re-wired with new romex/ground and feed the single pole that way? There would be a ground in the other box, but the feed itself would just be the old two wire ( this somehow bugs me still ). OR, I could just run another 3-way wire that would have a constant hot to the first box from the ceiling, down an adjacent wall, under the basement and back up again ( since there's no way to go from the top down due to the design of the house/roof etc ). I already ran one 3-way wire from this spot so doing another wouldn't be terrible, just have to re-drill/fish etc.
So thanks if you made it this far and I welcome anyones opinion or suggestion.
As another alternative to this ( and I don't like it, but I'd be curious to hear others thoughts on this ) there is an old 2 wire ( it's in the wall and can't be easily removed ) without ground feed that I can usewith the single pole and 3-way switch and ground everything from the other romex that is there and still be ok, but I wanted to check this first before doing that.
The issue is that in one particular part of the home there is no feasible way to pull new romex down to the wall switch so the wiring has been reversed in the order it comes into the boxes. I'll do my best to explain below.
Currently there is a ceiling box that has a constant hot feed running into it that is tied into another 3 wire feed ( red/black/white) and that wire feeding down the power to an adjacent wall switch from the ceiling which is using one of the black wires (wire nutted ) as a constant hot for another light switch in the same box running to another room. So one single pole switch and a 3-way switch in one box. From that wall switch another 3 way wire is running to an adjacent wall switch on the opposite side of the room.
Since I can't run the wires to the initial wall switch with the single pole and 3-way switch from the ceiling I went in the opposite direction but at the cost of not having a constant hot wire in the initial wall box for the single pole switch so I'm not able to add a constant hot to the other switch for the other room, or so I think?
I'm wondering if there is any way I can wire nut one of the black wires from the 3 way switch that used to have a constant hot in it and pull to the other single pole switch in the outlet that does not have a constant hot feed to it?
Alternatively I have two other options and I'd like opinions on this since I can't make up my mind which way to go.
There is another old asphalt coated romex wire that goes from the switch panel with the single pole / 3-way switch that I could re-connect to a outlet box I have already re-wired with new romex/ground and feed the single pole that way? There would be a ground in the other box, but the feed itself would just be the old two wire ( this somehow bugs me still ). OR, I could just run another 3-way wire that would have a constant hot to the first box from the ceiling, down an adjacent wall, under the basement and back up again ( since there's no way to go from the top down due to the design of the house/roof etc ). I already ran one 3-way wire from this spot so doing another wouldn't be terrible, just have to re-drill/fish etc.
So thanks if you made it this far and I welcome anyones opinion or suggestion.
As another alternative to this ( and I don't like it, but I'd be curious to hear others thoughts on this ) there is an old 2 wire ( it's in the wall and can't be easily removed ) without ground feed that I can usewith the single pole and 3-way switch and ground everything from the other romex that is there and still be ok, but I wanted to check this first before doing that.