1 Inch PVC Drain Question

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Hey all, I got my water inlet and outlet setup correctly but trying to figure out my drain line. I have a 1 inch PVC stubbed out about a foot out of the wall. I need a p-trap, a tee, and a stand pipe (connecting a sink drain as well). The pipe measured about 1 3/8" OD so I'm assuming it's a 1 inch PVC. Am I losing it or are there no p-traps to fit this scenario? Everything I see is 1.25 or bigger. This may just be a really basic thing I'm missing but I'm thoroughly confused at this point.

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The pipe measured about 1 3/8" OD
1-1/4 copper or CPVC pipe is 1-3/8 OD. 1-1/4 slip joint brass or plastic is 1-1/4 OD. 1 inch schedule 40 pipe is 1.315 OD.

This would be a good time to get a digital caliper.

Do you know where that pipe drains to?
 

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I will get one and report back. I have a few days until my GFCI gets here. It's a PVC pipe that I measured, but yes it's not exact.
 

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So slip joints measure OD on listed size while the PVC pipe is listed by it's ID?
 

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So slip joints measure OD on listed size while the PVC pipe is listed by it's ID?
Yes on the slip joint. Roughly ID on copper and schedule 40 pvc. Smaller than nominal for CPVC and PEX.

Copper, CPVC and PEX has OD of 1/8 plus nominal, at least in common sizes.
 

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Yes on the slip joint. Roughly ID on copper and schedule 40 pvc. Smaller than nominal for CPVC and PEX.

Copper, CPVC and PEX has OD of 1/8 plus nominal, at least in common sizes.

Reach4: The pipe doesn't have any markings on it, would I be able to tell by color or texture if its CPVC vs. schedule 40 PVC?
 

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Reach4: The pipe doesn't have any markings on it, would I be able to tell by color or texture if its CPVC vs. schedule 40 PVC?
CPVC is usually light tan, and PVC is usually white.

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CPVC is usually light tan, and PVC is usually white.
Trying to get this paint over spray off with a light grit sandpaper, but does look a bit off white. If it is in fact CPVC with OD 1 3/8, what options am I looking at?

Thank you again so much for the help!
 

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Trying to get this paint over spray off with a light grit sandpaper, but does look a bit off white. If it is in fact CPVC with OD 1 3/8, what options am I looking at?
Where does the pipe go? If it is not capped, does it smell like a sewer? It could be going to a dry well. I am not sure a trap is needed for that. It could be going to a floor drain before the trap. It could go to a branch before a trap on a sink. No additional trap needed in those cases.

Is this in development by one builder? You may have neighbors who have been through this.
 

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Where does the pipe go? If it is not capped, does it smell like a sewer? It could be going to a dry well. I am not sure a trap is needed for that. It could be going to a floor drain before the trap. It could go to a branch before a trap on a sink. No additional trap needed in those cases.

Is this in development by one builder? You may have neighbors who have been through this.

It is capped and goes directly into the wall, unsure what happens to it behind the wall. It was directly inbetween but below the copper water loop that I tapped into for the water feed. My assumption was a drain for the water softener was what this was intended for. I was going to p trap to be safe since I'm connecting both a standpipe for the airgap/softener drain hose and sink drain for a new garage sink. There are a few homes by the same builder so I can try to NextDoor and see what they say.
 

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I just realized you helped me on my last post, so thanks again. Here's before I tapped it.
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I wonder if the softener drain somehow joins the washer drain. It will be interesting to see what that turns out to be piped to.
 

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I wonder if the softener drain somehow joins the washer drain. It will be interesting to see what that turns out to be piped to.

I posted it on NextDoor to see if anyone knows. Not sure how I'd find out without just tearing a hole in the wall, which I'm not going to do. I guess I could always use a rubber flexible coupling to join it to another pipe if the OD doesn't line up.
 

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A small diameter pipe such as shown in your photo will be used for pressurized water whereas a drain line that relies on gravity to transfer the flow to a sewer or septic system will utilize a 1.5", 2" or larger pipe.

While the drain flow from the softener will be pressurized equal to water system pressure, the pressurized flow will discharge at some point into a larger drain pipe or drain receptor so the flow will then continue on by gravity to the sewer or septic system.

You could look for the other end of the softener drain stub out to terminate possibly within a floor drain in that or another nearby room. The pipe could also lead to below the kitchen laundry room or bathroom sink. Because the softener connections are only a rough in, the drain pipe may not be yet actually connected to a kitchen, laundry or bathroom drain line so proceeding to hookup the softener without verifying where it will drain, could possibly result in flooding within your home.

Because a water softener will condition potable water. the connection from the softener's pressurized drain line to the home's sewer system will need to be made using an air gap so as to prevent possible bacteria cross-contamination from the home sewer back into the softener.
 

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I think you could cut the cap off. See if sewer smells come out.

If not, put your ear to the open pipe. Have somebody walk around with a sound source, and see if you can hear the sound coming from the various rooms. Not indoors? Try outdoors.

For the connection, there will be a way once your caliper arrives, or you drive over to
4001 S Lamar Blvd, if you are in Austin.
 

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I think you could cut the cap off. See if sewer smells come out.

If not, put your ear to the open pipe. Have somebody walk around with a sound source, and see if you can hear the sound coming from the various rooms. Not indoors? Try outdoors.

For the connection, there will be a way once your caliper arrives, or you drive over to
4001 S Lamar Blvd, if you are in Austin.

Opened the pipe, not noticing any smell. Got my caliper, 1.33 inches OD, 1.00 ID.
 

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Opened the pipe, not noticing any smell. Got my caliper, 1.33 inches OD, 1.00 ID.
So 1 inch PVC, as you originally expected.

You can put your ear to it as somebody moves around with a sound... or maybe blow or suck with the vacuum cleaner, and see if you can hear air moving outdoors or in the laundry room or a nearby bathroom.

It would be nice if you could do something like couple a clarinet mouthpiece in there.
 

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Reach4, do you know of any 1.5" PVC tee's that are female threaded on the two continuous sides and male threaded on the 3rd tee side? Searching all the different sites to find one.
 

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Also, whats the correct way to hook up to the stub out with a p trap? I'm sorry, I know these are really newbie type questions, just trying to make sure I do this right. Can I just use a flexible coupling like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C7MQNXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Right now the 1.25 p trap I have slides almost exactly over the stub out from the wall and I'm sure the coupling would work but not sure thats the right way to do it.
 
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