What does everyone think of this softner/filter

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  1. davesnothome

    davesnothome DIY Member

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  2. Cass

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    I'm not sure on that one there is nothing that explaines how it works...I suspect magnets...but....
  3. Cass

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    What do you think of your water quality compaired to where you lived last...was your water hard and did you have a softner...
  4. davesnothome

    davesnothome DIY Member

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    I have not really noticed anything...The pre filter, I just replaced and it was caked with a dark sediment so I guess its doing its job. Im just wondering if over time that however this thing works will it cause restrictions in my water flow? I assume it collects something from the water somehow, but it has no backwash...so it has to plug up eventually. The plumber who was out to my house said they are useless...period, end of story. It was here when I moved in, and I can see they are expensive to buy...would I buy one, probably not. Just wondering what others think of them?
  5. Cass

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    I suspect the same thing...
  6. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    It uses a mineral called Softsorb etc. which is very very expensive and has an operational life of 5 yrs. There is very little in the bottom of that tank, maybe 18"-20" or a bit more.

    It is supposed to make hard water act like softened water. They don't do a good job of that or get anywhere near softened water.

    They are not "Salt Free" softeners because they do not remove any hardness, iron, manganese etc. etc. as a softener does.

    From that web site;

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    The Pelican NaturSoft system utilizes a commercial grade media granule, offering you superior performance and unlimited lifespan.
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    That unlimited lifespan is an outright lie. The manufacturer and the supplier I bought a small one from for testing both say 5 years. And if I wanted to hunt for it, I could find the manufacture's spec sheet that I have for it.
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  7. nhmaster

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    There are a couple other companies marketing these same type units, Watts being the one that comes to mind. Though they have some sucess, it is important to note that not only does the media have a finite life (usually around 5 years, depending on the severity of the water conditions) they all are only useful for marginal water hardness conditions.
  8. nhmaster3015

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    I agree with Peter here. I have installed a few of them and if the water conditions are not horrible, they work.
  9. davesnothome

    davesnothome DIY Member

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    Can you get new media for them? and install it yourself? or is it when they reach 5 yrs or so they are garbage? Just curious what then....take it out of the system? Thanks.
  10. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    You can replace the media but my wholesale cost is all but $8,000 per cuft bag of it. And a cuft bag of resin delivered to your door is like $115. And your water is nowhere near as nice as softened water. And a softener costs much less to start with.
  11. davesnothome

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    ok, so I know this thing is almost 5yrs old. So should I take it out of the system? and replace it with a softener? If so on a 2 bedroom house with upper bath only, and lower shower only, 2 people here only what would best suit me? Or how would I determine if this Pelican NS3 is still any good?
  12. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    How do you like the water?
  13. davesnothome

    davesnothome DIY Member

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    its wet....lol. I really can,t say because it has been here since I moved in. I just think it might be time for a proper softener with this being 5 yrs old. I changed the pre filter a few days ago and it was black with sediment so who knows what the inside of the main one looks like or if it is working? The water seems ok, but only being here 3 months its hard to tell.
  14. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    If there is a by pass valve, put it in by pass and run water at the sinks after flushing the toilets and see how that feels and how it suds up compered to what you are used to.

    Do you have white water marks all over everything the water drys on? If so a softener would probably reduce them but hardness isn't the only cause.
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