Two scary wiring mistakes in my garage

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  1. arfeller

    arfeller New Member

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    While upgrading the service in my garage I ran into these gems.

    After I found the first I began removing ALL the wiring in the garage and will replace everything. Also notice, the cover on the box was made out of a thin tin cut to the correct size.

    All wires were found this way, i did not change anything or take off any electrical tape

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    Luckily, I had never used the outlet with the neutral wired into the ground. It was in the back corner and out of the way. I can only imagine the problems that could have caused for me.
     
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    neutral

    Actually, it might not have caused you any problems, as long as the neutral wire was not interupted between the outlet and the panel box.
     
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  4. arfeller

    arfeller New Member

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    Truthfully, as you can see, both wires were black and I'm not really sure if that was hooked up to the neutral or hot... Did not bother to check as it was all coming out anyway.
     
  5. Billy_Bob

    Billy_Bob In the Trades

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    That would highly motivate me to check out the rest of the electrical system now rather than at later! :eek:
     
  6. arfeller

    arfeller New Member

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    Yep, None of the original wiring is left in the house.

    The garage is detached and was my next project. Yesterday, i removed all the wiring from the entire garage.

    At this point I feel alright : )
     
  7. burleymike

    burleymike New Member

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    Looks like the same guy that wired my house did yours. Here is what I found in the wall when I remodeled the dining room. I always wondered what that bulge in the wall was. They even put a nail through the wire, I should have got a picture of that.
     

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  8. ChuckS

    ChuckS New Member

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    I guess that's what you get from the lowest bidder...
     
  9. Cass

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    The nail was to hold the wire in place....
     
  10. Scuba_Dave

    Scuba_Dave Extreme DIY Homeowner

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    How the heck can you install drywall over a wire :confused:

    And NOT notice it ??
     
  11. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    you can't...it was intentional...
     
  12. nukeman

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    It saves money on wire staples. :) Just pin the wire between the stud and the drywall to secure it.
     
  13. burleymike

    burleymike New Member

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    That is not all they did, unfortunately I did not take pictures of the worst stuff.
     
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