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I have 3 Totos to install and two installed with questionable results. The installed ones work fine. Have been that way of about 4 years (using shims) without apparent problems.
My specs to plumber was mount using the Fluidmaster wax-less gaskets. This was to avoid wax gaskets in a heated floor. Two are installed, but now that I look at them, the bases are not real close to the floor (1/2" - 3/4"). I am trying to put in two more. All floors are concrete and heated as part of the radiant heating system. Instructions to to tubing installer to stay away from toilets was essentially ignored, so floor temp is likely to be close to water temp. Circulating water could be in the 160 degree range; potentially higher, but probably not likely.
All the toilet flanges are Sioux Chief TKO. The Fluidmaster gaskets are 7500 series. The problem seems to be in the upper area if the gasket.They are built in a stepped fashion, and the first step keeps the gasket from becoming flush with the floor. This leaves the gap which I also see in the already installed units. I don't think that is a real good idea, although creative use of shims followed by caulk would appear to fix it.
Question, what sort of effect will a hot floor have on the performance/durability of wax rings. Are they a safe alternative in this environment? Or should I go with ships of up to 3/4" and caulk to support the bowel base. If this alternative is worse than wax rings I will do it; else, wax rings for everyone.
My specs to plumber was mount using the Fluidmaster wax-less gaskets. This was to avoid wax gaskets in a heated floor. Two are installed, but now that I look at them, the bases are not real close to the floor (1/2" - 3/4"). I am trying to put in two more. All floors are concrete and heated as part of the radiant heating system. Instructions to to tubing installer to stay away from toilets was essentially ignored, so floor temp is likely to be close to water temp. Circulating water could be in the 160 degree range; potentially higher, but probably not likely.
All the toilet flanges are Sioux Chief TKO. The Fluidmaster gaskets are 7500 series. The problem seems to be in the upper area if the gasket.They are built in a stepped fashion, and the first step keeps the gasket from becoming flush with the floor. This leaves the gap which I also see in the already installed units. I don't think that is a real good idea, although creative use of shims followed by caulk would appear to fix it.
Question, what sort of effect will a hot floor have on the performance/durability of wax rings. Are they a safe alternative in this environment? Or should I go with ships of up to 3/4" and caulk to support the bowel base. If this alternative is worse than wax rings I will do it; else, wax rings for everyone.
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