Tile floor closet flange issues. With picture.

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  1. coyote556

    coyote556 New Member

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    Can anyone offer any advise on this. I screwed up and tiled this floor right up to the 3"abs opening in a concrete floor. I bought an inside closet flange for 3" abs, however the problem is the flange has a small shelf on the bottom of it, which makes it sit up too hight off the floor for the toilet to go flush. I was wondering if I could just attach a closet ring to the floor with Tapcons, to hold the toilet bolts in place, and use a wax ring with a horn? As you can see from the pictures, the top edge of the 3" abs is only 3/8" below the level surface of the tile. I appreciate any help and advice. Thanks
     

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  2. frenchie

    frenchie Jack of all trades

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    Inside pipe cutter.
     
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  4. Verdeboy

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    Can you chisel away some of that tile, so your flange will sit flush?
     
  5. BAPlumber

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    If you can chisel (knock out) enough tile to get your flange to set flush, great. there are a "hundred" different flanges out there and one would problably work for you.

    I once found a 3" solid abs closet flange that would fit in my confined space (without the "shelf"). My supplier didn't have what I needed, but when we went to see what they had, I found what I needed. sometimes they put back into stock, products that are returned, and were from other sources.
     
  6. coyote556

    coyote556 New Member

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    If I start busting on that tile, how big of a risk do I run of it shattering where it will be visible even after the toilet is set?
     
  7. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    WIth a Dremel tool or maybe a rotozip and some craftmanship, you could probably grind away the ridge on the flange that is preventing it from getting flush
     
  8. markts30

    markts30 Commercial Plumber

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    A diamond wheel on an angle grinder should allow you to score thetile surface and allow you to chip it back enough to put the flange on...
     
  9. Master Plumber Mark

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    inside flange


    that dont too tooo bad

    they do make a flange that will go into the
    inside of the 3 inch pipe

    why dont you go out and buy one for 5 bucks
    and see if it does not just fall into place???
     
  10. coyote556

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    I like the diamond wheel idea. As for the inside 3" flange, that is what I am using, however it has a small "shelf" on the bottom side of it and this "shelf" is keeping the flange from going flush with the floor.
     
  11. mrmedic

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    coyote556 , Before you try to chisel the tile use a glass cutter to scribe a line where you want the tile to brake. Like maybe 1/4" out from where the flange would be. Then use a chisel and take out a little at a time. That should do it.

    Ron
     
  12. frenchie

    frenchie Jack of all trades

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    Is the "shelf" hitting the tile, the excess mortar, or the pipe?
     
  13. coyote556

    coyote556 New Member

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    It is hitting the tile
     
  14. geniescience

    geniescience Homeowner

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    somebody already made a nice clean cut in that tile. It looks like a big notch in a big tile.

    Somebody comfortable with a grinder will be able to kick up some dust when they shape that straightedged hole into the shape required to make everything fit.

    david
     
  15. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    flange

    A hammer and a small chisel will remove the tile, but I would NEVER use a flange that inserts into a 3" pipe. I would cut the concrete away on the outside first and use a conventional flange.
     
  16. elvisclock

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    Using a flange that fits inside a 3" pipe is asking for trouble as you are immediatley reducing the size of the pipe. The same goes with the horned wax rings.
     
  17. geniescience

    geniescience Homeowner

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    whether to use a drill to get holes started, and then use a hammer and small chisel, or whether to use a grinder, depends on your comfort level.

    dav id
     
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