possible condensation?

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  1. tom123

    tom123 New Member

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    I had a Kohler Wellington toilet installed last August. I have never noticed any leakage or other problems.

    While cleaning the floor recently, I noticed that there was a little space left open on the floor in the back that was not caulked. I was checking for any signs of water and noticed that if I stuck the tip of my finger at the opening of the hole, the tip of my finger is wet.

    I checked the connections and the floor from the basement and can see no signs of leakage on the floor or the pipes. i have been keeping an eye on it and there is never any water that leaks out on the floor.

    Could this be condensation or should I have a new wax ring installed? I don't want to ignore a problem and have a bigger issue in the future.
     
  2. Mike Swearingen

    Mike Swearingen New Member

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    Sounds more like condensation, especially if it has no odor.
    The back of the toilet base was deliberately not caulked so that a wax ring leak could be detected much sooner.
    Condensation can best be eliminated with better ventilation.
    Good Luck!
    Mike
     
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  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Condensation can only occur if humid air contacts a cold surface. It is not likely that much air could get under the toilet through that hole and it is also unlikely that the portion of the toilet exposed to that air is cold enough to create condensation.
     
  5. Mike Swearingen

    Mike Swearingen New Member

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    hj,
    All bathroom setups are different, and you're absolutely right, it isn't likely, but the toilet bowl trap is right there and if there is any humid air at all in the bathroom (which there always is...showers, etc.) it could be condensation.
    The only way to know for sure, of course, is if tom pulls the toilet to check.
    Who knows? LOL
    Mike
    tom123,
    You can always do the old food coloring in the toilet tank trick to see if its leaking or condensation, before you pull it. Good luck!
     
  6. tom123

    tom123 New Member

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    i put a 2000 flushes tablet in for a couple of days and i also ran a bottle of red food coloring down in about five flushes. I don't see a hint of colors in the discharge.

    Should i let it be now and check the basement everyonce in a while?

    Thanks for the info!
     
  7. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    In testing by the San Diego Water authority, 2000Flushes destroyed toilet flappers, some models in as little as 28 days.
     
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