overflow tube

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by Yersmay, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Yersmay

    Yersmay Writing, constructionDIY Member

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    A neighbor asked me to look at her toilet and before I start yanking I thought I'd ask some advice. There is a crack on the very bottom of the overflow tube. The crack is at the base where it is somehow attached to the main body of the flapper valve mechanism. Does this tube have threads and can I unscrew it? Is it a friction fit? I'd like a closer look but there is no visible way to detach the flapper valve mechanism (not the flapper valve itself, but the sealing gasket part of it) from the bottom of the tank. The make and model of this toilet is a mystery. It's old, though. Any ideas on how I could remove the cracked overflow tube without doing more damage? Thanks!

    Paul
  2. be very careful

    fools rush in where wise men fear to tread....


    if this is brass and it is leaking at the bottom of the overflow
    tube you are messing with trouble....

    its probably very old and will most likely snap off in your
    hand when you touch it

    then you got to make it right for your neighbor

    and remember-----a good deed never goes unpunished....
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    yes their are threads in the bottom of that assembly
    and if it snaps off on you , then you got to somehow
    chisel out the threads left down in the socket......

    its done with a very find screwdriver and or sharp punch...
    youi might also have to use a fine hack saw to cut the
    threads out from the inside to be able to get the broken threads
    out......

    then you got to find that sized thread and hope you can screw
    the damn thing back into it....


    before you touch anything tell your neighbor that you
    are not responsible for anything that is about to happen...

    and she might be wise to just get a new toilet and save
    everyone a Satruday afternoon of greif

    But, if she is a damn good looking single neighbor,
    forget everything I just said. --- go for it.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2005
  3. plumber1

    plumber1 Plumber

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    Mark is right. Take it out as he says. Thin. narrow. sharp screwdriver will do it. It's not that hard to do.
    I only remember two diamaters.
    Some come with a different size on each end.
    You can do it.
  4. Snowman

    Snowman New Member

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    Mark, this is great, I love it..... I thought this only happened to me. Golly, in my small business, I would try and be nice and do a little something extra for the customer and POW!! Well, you know the rest..
    Thanks, Tom :)
  5. Yersmay

    Yersmay Writing, constructionDIY Member

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    Thank you all for your responses. I've always held the belief that the ability to handle repairs that literally snap off in your hand is the mark of a professional plumber -- which I am not. One thing I might add... the tube is white plastic. Does that make a difference in terms of stategy? I haven't fooled with it but it is obviously fragile and in the full expectation of having it snap off, I posted my original question. Thanks again.
  6. plumber1

    plumber1 Plumber

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    I assumed that the tube was brass and that it broke from a brass flush valve.
    With out eyeing it my first thought is to replace the whole flush valve.......
  7. plumber 1 you could be right

    yes that is what is probably going to
    happen to this poor guy before its all over.

    and changeing out a flush assembly in a 1965
    toilet is always a great way to spend a Sunday

    trying to get that full tube to screw in correctly
    into that fine thread is something I fondly remember
    they always seem to cross thread on me

    A new toilet could be the best option he could offer
    his neighbor, and save them both a lot of troubles...


    every good deed never goes un-punished
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