New resin for model 60

Discussion in 'Water Softener Forum, problems, installation and r' started by ChuckB, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    What is the best way to measure the .7 CF of resin needed in each tank?
    I know I can weigh it, divide by 10 and then multiply by 7, but is there an easier way? Thanks

    Chuck
  2. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    I would save time and a step by weighing the 1 cuft and multiplying that by .7.

    The only lubricant required on most o-rings used on control valves etc. today is water.
  3. TedL

    TedL New Member

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    It would be 21 quarts or 5.25 gallons.
  4. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    worked out pretty good.. I cut the bottom off a clean, one gallon oil container that had a big neck and used a scoop. Cleaned the tanks as recommended by Andy also. Thanks for the replies. Chuck
  5. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    Anyone buys resin from me I include a proper new funnel.
  6. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    Silicone o-rings only need water as a lubricant.
  7. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

  8. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    Gary, Mute or Moot point. My Kinetico O-Rings are not silicone. They are Styrene-Butadiene Rubber (SBR) O-Rings and I have always used silicone grease with no problems. Thanks.

    Chuck
  9. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    The only lubricant required on most o-rings used on control valves etc. today is water.
  10. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    If you want to tell people with silicone o-rings to lube them, and to use silicone to do it, go for it. It is not necessary, water works very well.
  11. Bob999

    Bob999 In the Trades

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    Andy and Gary: I want to see if I understand the issue about lubricating o rings on softeners.

    Gary said silicone lubricant isn't required with a silicone o ring. Andy said it is ok to use silicone lubricant on o rings. I don't see a direct conflict between those statements--rather a different emphasis.

    I know that Gary is a proponent of Clack valves so I looked at the documentation for Clack WS=1 valves to see what is said about o ring lubricants. I found the following statement in more than one place: "Do not use Vaseline, oils, or other unacceptable lubricants on o-rings. A silicone lubricant may be used on black o-rings." I found no reference to using water as a lubricant in the Clack manuals I reviewed.

    So my take is that it is ok to use silicone lubricant but sometimes it may not be required. I guess the practical question that remains for me is how do I know if the o ring is a silicone o ring that doesn't require silicone lub?
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  12. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    Gary, a more approprate statement from you would have been something like:

    "Some people use silicone on their orings, which is fine, but I have always used water and it works for me."

    and again my o-rings aren't made of silicone!

    Until they rewrite my Kinetico manual I will continue to use silicone as it recommends. It makes assembly much easier. Thanks Chuck
  13. TedL

    TedL New Member

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    Tip: For those of you wishing to use silicone lube/sealer for any purpose, Lowes sells a reasonably sized, reasonably priced ($4+/-) container. Say, for the o-rings on a kitchen faucet spout.
  14. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    Silicone o-rings do not need lubrication but if you want to lubricate, water works very well.

    Clack also says to not lubricate the seals. They are silicone.
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  15. Bob999

    Bob999 In the Trades

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    Andy, The link you provide is to a document prepared by the online seller of softeners--It is not, as best I can tell, a Clack document.

    The quote I provided in my post above was taken from a document on the Clack website--specifically this document at page 35:

    http://www.clackcorp.com/valve/Manuals/V3115-99_WS1_1.25_Drawings_and_Service_Manual.pdf
  16. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    I read every word in that competitor's installation guide that Andy posted.

    There are many errors and omissions in it. Some errors are really bad!

    I could copy/paste them but since they are a competitor, I won't. I'll just feel bad for their Clack WS-1 customers.

    They have revised a guide used for Fleck to fit the Clack WS-1. The fit isn't very good.

    I don't know fer sure but, IIRC, silicone and sch 80 pvc may not mix well, yet they are telling their customer to use silicone with sch 80 PVC. I do know there is no need for lubricant on the o-rings on the plumbing connectors.

    Anyway, silicone o-rings do not need any lubricant but water works very well.
  17. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    Kinetico does not use silicone o-rings.

    You are the one to bring up silicone o-rings in this post..

    Re read everything again..
  18. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    I didn't say they did.

    What's with the attitude?

    Have you noticed that your other thread about Kinetico has been deleted? I suggest you lose the attitude or this one will probably be deleted too.
  19. Kinnectico is junk

    Just ran into a customer that paid 2000 for the Kinnectco
    unit, I not say a word... I know that some day he will regret it.
    .

    the only reasons he went with
    that unit over the 999 clack was that it did not use electricity...

    the rest was all smoke and mirrors...



    I am sorry for being so insensitive,
    ,,
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  20. ChuckB

    ChuckB New Member

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    Your posts were also deleted. You should also lose your attitude.

    All I was doing was defending your misinformation. This forum should used to help others, not to sell your products.
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