I say - Way to go Judge !!!

Discussion in 'Ian's Corner' started by DonL, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Cookie

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    Rape is a violation when someone touches another person without their consent. It can be under any circumstances. In a swimming pool like the coach of Penn State did, or breaking and entering, or at a party, or bar, the circumstance in which it was done has no bearing on it. It also, doesn't matter if the rapist is high on drugs, drunk out of his mind, or simply out of his mind, if he rapes he did a crime, and that is punishable by law. If he touched a 12 year old girl or boy, I hope the punishment is even greater. How would you feel if someone close to you was raped? Your 5 year old son? Someone you loved? What if the tart was your 12 year old daughter or granddaughter? Would she still be a "tart"? Would she still had "deserved" it? Does this make sense? You may not think, she was a "tart" but, what if, another man did and raped her. How would you feel if, it hit home with you? I hope it never does, but, people, kids, boys and girls, women of all ages, are raped everyday.

    Where do you draw the line on what a man can do to a young child? Or another? When does he not have the right to "touch" another? Who makes that judgement call? The man? Why do you feel the man has that right to decide what is okay or not, on what he can do to another's body and life?

    What you said about what rape is, breaking into a window with a knive, excludes the coach in the swimming pool fondling young boys, then. Touching their butts. Was that not rape to you?
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  2. ballvalve

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    You should be the assistant local DA, and we would have to build a new jail. Your definition of rape far exceeds Websters.

    In the case of REAL rape, every girl or boy needs of those on the right at their bedside. Almost every random house and street crime I have observed had no living security system.
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  3. Cookie

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    No, not really, not at all. So, you think, the coach in the swimming pool is innocent of rape?

    The definition of rape is by the way, exactly, as I put it. It is a violation... read it for yourself, look it up. You will see.

    What is REAL rape, and NOT REAL rape? What is the difference?

    My husband used to train attack dogs in the military, his arms had enough scars to prove it. I know, too, dogs are great, but, they can be taken out of the equation along, with security alarms. Alot, of times, you can't have your dog, and you can't carry along your house alarm. I suggest other things instead, but, you can't arm a kid with it. For that, it is being with your kid alot, and even then, look at the boy scouts, the church priests, and many other places like the coach volunteered at. Education is always the key.
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  4. BobL43

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    I agree with you Cookie, but little teenie bopper 12 year olds should not be allowed to dress (by their parents) like sluts. Boy are boys (any age) hormones are mighty potent and the tool has a mind of its own it seems. grown men have to think before they F up and ruin another's life as well as their own. Also what goes on between adults and kids is absolutely disgusting and should be grounds for castration when proven.
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    Men are men, boys are boys, their is a difference, and men, should know not to prey upon a young 12 year old girl. It is not the amount of hormones, it is the amount of brains. And, what does a little 12 old boy dress like or act like to f up someone else's life. It is NOT the way a person dresses, if that were true, why do little boys get raped? Why do nuns get raped? Or 88 year old women? It is the mentality of the person. A rapist has a mind that is wired different than another. Usually, anger is the culprit, they need to control, to manipulate, in order to survive.

    Think about it.
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  6. ballvalve

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    Every 88 year old woman needs a good German shepherd at bedside.

    And the all the remaining nuns are about 100 years old, so they are likely off target.

    A brush on a butt or a stroke of the hair is not a violation, especially at a drunken brawl. Your [and local programs] definition is causing a Salem witch hunt in this county. And its statuatory rape if she is 17.99 years old, but not when she is 18. Go figure.
  7. Cookie

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    Yep, can't be alittle bit pregnant, can't be alittle bit 18. Either you are or your aren't.
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    Thank God the Europeans don't fiddle with such primitive nonsense. And what a great move for Roman Polanski for having abandoned this false moral country and fled to France so he could continue making great movies and enjoying willing french girls.

    "People grudge Roman Polanski for what they cannot enjoy themselves"
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    Rape isn't funny, but, it is funny you still have not answered my question I put in front of you, if you thought, what the coach did in the swimming pool with the young boys from Penn State is rape or not.

    Inquiring minds want to know.
  10. DonL

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    I think that the Coach needed to be castrated long before now, If he is guilty.


    I think that Call Girls of Legal age should be as easy as ordering a Pizza. Tax or collect a Fee for the service.


    It should not be a crime to call and order a Pizza Pie with no Cheese Please...
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    http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF

    This is the grand jurys list of offenses. It involves little to nothing about touching a butt in a pool. It was a person in a position of authority abusing it and utilizing developmentally disabled kids for serious sexual activity. At least he was not violent, and was just testing for victims that would submit.

    Kids can shower at home, remove all school showers or make them entirely seperate and private. The school systems should all be indicted for child abuse, making them display their genitals to a crowd of 20% morons. Absurd.

    He IS a rapist, and will never see daylight.

    But my guy is lonely and the sluts parents should be jailed. Then she can get a job in a LEGAL whorehouse and make 100 bucks an hour after taxes. Only thing she'll ever learn to do well anyway.

    And the age for statuatory rape needs to go down to about 16. Pick up a 'girls' magazine and find out why.

    I'll take a small pizza with blonde hair and extra long legs. Hold the garlic. Brie cheese on the side with wine.
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  12. Cookie

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    The guy was lonely? LOL... there are lots of lonely men or women in this world, who does not go out and touch a few butts for satisfaction. He should had met a woman his age and met on mutual terms, but, I guess, he had to have them illegally young. That is not loneliness, that is perversion.

    And, he raped doing so. Just curious, did he learn his lesson and not do it again? Usually, 9 x's out of 10, they will. Repeat offenders.

    I don't think you quite understand, at all, about the mind of a rapist, or what you are referring to, as child molestation. The way a person dresses, no matter who, what age, what sex doesn't matter, the person can be completely undressed as in a shower, it doesn't matter...

    that is not what invites the crime. Doing away with mass showers in the school system in order to deter a rapist, molestation, is not going to do a thing. The problem lies in the mind of the person.

    It is a crime of control, rage, anger, having very little to do with sex. The person could be wearing a snow suit, it isn't going to matter.

    They are looking for something that you cannot see. A person they think they can dominate, and control. Alot of things are lost for the victim because it is a very serious and confusing crime because it involves so much.

    But, I can assure you this much, your friend's loneliness had nothing to do with it. It was much deeper and demented that than, and if were to ever be honest with you, you would find, he did much much more than what he had claimed to.
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    There are some interesting philosophical issues to consider. Why should a consensual sex act in California between a 50 year old and a 17 year old be a crime when the same act in Iowa (where the age of consent is 16) would just be an old man getting lucky? And how can we brand the California one of these 50 year olds a child molester/rapist when the same act was done by both? And what about same sex "relationships?" Is a 50 year old man who has a sexual relationship with a 16 year old boy held to the same standards as a 50 year old man who has sex with a 16 year old girl? Should he be? What are society's rights to declare things moral or immoral? And who gets to decide? For example, should the military have the power to determine on its own that an American citizen in a foreign country is a terrorist who can be assassinated? What are the limits? Where's Ian when we need him?
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    It sounds like you are questioning the legal system, each state is different I do believe in what you are asking. The legal system can determine what is a crime, and what is not, but, I think, most people know, what is already right and what is wrong, and in essence, do not really the need the legal system to state what is and what isn't. But for those, who do not know the difference between right and wrong, I guess the govn will make those determinations.
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    It's a lot more complicated than that, don't you think? How can a person be considered "wrong/immoral" in one state but "right/moral" in another state? And if the military can determine that an American citizen in Afghanistan is a terrorist who can and should be killed on sight, why can't the FBI make the same determination regarding an American citizen in the United States? Wait, nevermind, they did at Ruby Ridge. . .
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    Are 1 in 4 college students the victim of rape? I doubt it. 1 in 4 may have second thoughts after they sober up, but that's different.

    My questions are more rhetorical than substantive and were intended to support my belief that legislating morality is doomed to fail and that we are living far closer to a dictatorship than people may realize. Perhaps the worst example of this is the Supreme Court's Korematsu decision, in which the highest court in this country ruled that it was permissable for the American military to place American citizens of Japanes descent in American concentration camps during World War II. If the same issue were to come up today, I bet that it would be decided in the same way.

    What would I change? For starters the age of consent should be lowered to at least 15 because of the number of people who are sexually active at that age.
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    It is all too easy today for a young girl or woman to accuse a guy for whatever reason she fancies, of rape. Yes, there are real rapes and molestations in the news all the time, then there are woman like Justin Bieber's groupie who claims he is the father of the same child of hers she accused another guy of being the father.

    There is so much that goes on that it boggles the mind. I don't think Ballvalve's worker should be labeled as a sex offender for the rest of his life for all the reasons Ballvalve wrote about. I was not there to see what happened; she could have wiggled it his way, and he was showing appreciation maybe.

    The true ones are disgusting acts that should be dealt with swiftly after having been proven true. I'm a guy, and I think castration would be appropriate to a proven rapist, child molester, whatever. But it is just too damn easy to accuse a guy of the crime because of personality problems.
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    Is intercourse the same as sex ?

    Bill Clinton does not seem to think so.

    To Lust is a sin, Is some peoples eyes.

    Who is to decide what is wrong ?


    Not Me says I ...
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