How do you make a none polarized Capacitor from 2 polarized Capacitors

Discussion in 'Electrical Forum discussion & Blog' started by DonL, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    Hello Group,

    I remember years ago I made none polarized Capacitors from 2 polarized Capacitors.

    What I do not remember is if you hook the Positives together or do you hook the negatives
    together.

    I wanted to use 2 DC caps in an AC application.

    I need input from someone that can remember how to do it.

    I guess I am just getting to old to remember , the good stuff.

    Thanks for any input that you can provide.

    Have a Great Day.

    DonL
  2. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    You'd probably hook them up like diodes in a rectifier circuit so there would be a path that wouldn't blow the thing up. I think this is risky, as if one failed, you'd blow the other as well. And, if the value was critical, trying to find two matched would be really hard and probably more expensive than buying what you really needed in the first place.
  3. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    Hello Jim,

    I was going to use caps that I have already have , well rated over the RMS voltage that it will operate at.

    You may be correct that , buying the correct ones that I need may be better, but it is hard finding NP Caps at a
    good price. I have plenty others on hand.

    I am not sure what you are talking about when you say "hook them up like diodes in a rectifier circuit"

    I have used diodes back to back for protection, to limit voltage, but not sure what you mean with caps.

    They need to be in series and I realize that the voltage can not exceed 1 caps voltage value and the
    total capacity will be half of both equal value Caps.

    I just don't remember if it is + to + , or - to -, in the series circuit.

    Thank You.

    Have a great Day.

    DonL.
  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    What I was thinking, and I do not know if this will work, is to hook them up in parallel, with one plus and one minus on each end of the series circuit.
  5. david_griffin

    david_griffin New Member

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    Hi

    You have to connect negative together

    + - - +
  6. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    Thank You David,

    That is just what I did. I knew there was a way to make it work. I have used many. Just forgot. (Old Fart Age)

    Thank You. It works good and last a long time. Also saves money when you have usable caps on hand.

    Have a great day.

    DonL
  7. david_griffin

    david_griffin New Member

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    hehe :)

    but remember the total capacitance is C/2 if you use the same capacitors :) Permissible voltage increases twice.
  8. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    Good Morning,

    I knew that the capacitance would be half, but I thought the Max Voltage would be the rating of 1 cap
    because of the +--+ hookup.

    Connection of +-+- would be like You say, and maybe the other would be also, not sure. You could be correct.

    I always design overkill, 50% on what I build.
    I have very few problems with blown components that way, even if it cost more to build, I think it is worth it.

    Maybe I could test that theory with a smoke test.

    Thanks David.


    Have a great Day.


    DonL

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