Help with Kohler lift and turn tub drain

Discussion in 'Shower & bathtub Forum & Blog' started by chasgynonc, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. chasgynonc

    chasgynonc New Member

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    Two out of 3 Kohler lift and turn drains in my 3 yr old home have either lost the internal screw or become interminably clogged. Normally, I can remove the small handle on top to get to a screw to remove the drains, but with this Kohler lift and turn there is no screw below to allow the drain to be pulled out. Any help on how to remove this type of drain?
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2008
  2. Gerard

    Gerard New Member

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    Lift and turn tub drains with no set screws

    I also have Kohler bath fixtures in my 3 year old remodel. Is this the life span of these things?

    I was lost, lost, lost, like you, for months and months, despite much googling. Finally I found the answer.

    Most lift and turn tub drains have a set screw. In fact, everything you read makes it sound like they ALL do. You can find the set screw if you look just underneath the stopper with a flashlight -- you have to get pretty friendly with your drain. Make absolutely sure you do not have a set screw hiding under that stopper before you proceed with what I did.

    But some stoppers actually have no set screw. How do you get them off? Lift the stopper part way up (all the way up and it spins around freely; part way up and it will not turn, providing the "resistance" for you to screw against) and then turn it counter-clockwise. This will unscrew the stopper from the rod that connects it to the drain.

    This worked like a charm on my clogged drain. It took a lot more work on the one that was simply broken (the stopper would not stay up). The locking pin in that one had fallen out, so the stopper would turn endlessly and never lock, which meant that I could never unscrew it. After much struggle, I managed to jam what was effectively an awl into the hole where the missing pin was supposed to go, causing it to lock in place sufficiently, and then unscrew the stopper from that rod.

    Now I have to figure out how to replace that missing pin.
  3. Brunelle

    Brunelle New Member

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    Gerard, thank you

    Gerard, whoever you are, thanks for the info -- we had this exact same problem in our house, and we spent way too long on Google trying to figure out what to do. This worked quickly and perfectly. For others, I'll repeat: if your lift-and-turn drain plug doesn't have a set screw, try lifting it just a bit -- an eighth of an inch or so -- and turning counterclockwise against the resistance. The top ought to come off in a few rotations. Then you can flip a coin with your housemate to see who gets to remove the gunk in the pipe.
  4. who

    who New Member

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    Gerard thank you. I have looked for a set screw. I tried to the two channel lock pliers method and could not figure it out. Your instructions made it easy and it worked like a charm. Sorry to hear about your broken pin.
  5. diyhandyman

    diyhandyman New Member

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    Set Screw for Kolher lift and turn tub drain

    Thanks for the help on this site. My Kohler tub stopper has a set screw that fixes the chrome stopper to a brass post that threads into the drain. The set screw worked loose and was lost down the drain. I unscrewed the brass post out of the drain (counterclockwise) and then took the assembly to the hardware store where I found a new set screw. The size is 8-32 x 1/4. I put PTFE tape around the set screw to make sure it wouldn't work loose again and then reinstalled the assembly. Everything is good again.
  6. diynewbie

    diynewbie New Member

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    I too have a Kohler tub with a lift and turn drain stopper.. I am struggling to remove the set-secrew to de-clog the drain. The set screw seems to be a brass one and easily stripps off when trying to unscrew using any regular screw drivers.. I would appreciate any advice to remove the stopper and de-clog the drain and I would like to replace the screw with a stainless steel one so that it doesn't strip in the future .. The space is so narrow (about 1/4") between the tub floor and the lifted drain that even insertnig a screw driver is a PIB (pain in the b..t).. .. Please help..
  7. DIYIlliterate

    DIYIlliterate New Member

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    Thank you Gerard!

    GERARD
    I love you!

    I have been trying to figure this out for 2 hours.
    I'm not going to lie, I was literally crying in my bathtub; I had given up all hope lol.
    I visited countless websites!

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!:D
  8. squirrelyone

    squirrelyone New Member

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    Brilliant!

    Gerard, I signed up for this forum just so I could thank you. I'd been going at my drain (I live in a rental house, so I had no idea of my make or model beyond the lift-and-turn part) with pliers and screwdrivers and kitchen knives (don't ask), but all to no avail. In the end, I still needed pliers, just because the thing was so old and grimy that it was the only way to get a good enough grip on it to remove it, but lifting it just a little bit like you suggested worked beautifully. At last I was able to chisel off the years' worth of lime buildup just beneath the drain. SO much buildup. At first, I though the drain *did* have the screw just underneath, but no - that was a sediment deposit.

    The little victories in making a house livable. :)

    I know the original post was old, but it's still extremely helpful!

    Thanks!!
  9. Kimmy1975

    Kimmy1975 New Member

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    Omgosh! Thanks so much. I have been having such an issue trying to figure out how to remove my bathtub stopper. I have searched the internet and watched SO many videos. I finally came across your post and it worked!!! :) Thanks so very much for posting this! I was beginning to think it was a lost cause! lol
  10. jmscott600

    jmscott600 New Member

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    Gerald i also lost the lock pin too and i still can't get the stopper out, how did you get something widget in the hole


  11. Alton

    Alton New Member

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    I had the pin break off and leave the threaded part in the drain basket. Do you know where to get the pin.
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