Gas Line - To tee or not to tee?

[Reg]

I ran this 1/2" gas line about 8 years ago to accomodate a gas grill. I now need to run a line to a gas range. At the far right in the photo you can see a coat hanger wire protruding through the plywood - this is directly below where the range will sit in the kitchen above. My question is, is it acceptable to add a 3/4" x 3/4" x 1/2" reducing tee and run both the range and grill from this valve? Otherwise, I will have to go 14 feet downstream to the next capped-off valve.
Which is preferrable, the shorter distance with less tees, or totally dedicated runs with more elbows, joints, and length?

Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[3m]

Is the supply line 3/4 and what is hooked up to this line and what are the btu ratings for the appliances installed

 

[Sponsor]

 

[Reg]

Is the supply line 3/4 and what is hooked up to this line and what are the btu ratings for the appliances installed

The main supply line is 1". The only gas appliance I have in service now is the grill. I switched my water heater back to electric about five years ago. The BTU specs for the grill and the soon-to-be-installed range:

Weber Genesis 1000 grill - 36,000 BTU

Kenmore 7748 Range -

Burner Configuration: All-purpose: one 9,500 BTU nat.,High output: one 17,200 BTU nat ,High output: one 12,000 BTU nat Power burner, Low output: one 5,000 BTU nat. Precise Simmer

Bake Burner: 18,000 BTU Nat./ Broiler Burner: 13,500 BTU Nat

 

[NHmaster]

Need to consult the gas piping charts.

Also need to get rid of that bushing as bushings are not code for gas piping.

 

[Reg]

Need to consult the gas piping charts.

Also need to get rid of that bushing as bushings are not code for gas piping.

Right, I know now - the bushing is coming out when I add the larger line. As far as capacity goes, my calcs indicate I will be okay by a decent margin. I just wanted some better trained eyes to scrutinize my plans. I appreciate the input on the bushing and I'm open to any additional comments.

Thanks!

 

[Redwood]

NH Master...
No helmet this time?

 

[Reg]

NH Master...
No helmet this time?

Inside joke, or did I miss something?

 

[Gary Swart]

Not totally "inside", but more of a "blast from the past".

 

[Redwood]

A site search of "duct tape helmet" or "head explode" will probably bring you up to snuff.

 

[Reg]

A site search of "duct tape helmet" or "head explode" will probably bring you up to snuff.

I searched and found a few threads with photos depicting fire and explosions. A subtle warning?

 

[Redwood]

Yes usually given to the non-pro asking for advice on a gas line installation.

Did you see the picture of NH Master's duct tape helmet that he usually asks for to prevent his head from exploding?

He must be slipping!

 

[Reg]

Yes usually given to the non-pro asking for advice on a gas line installation.

Did you see the picture of NH Master's duct tape helmet that he usually asks for to prevent his head from exploding?

He must be slipping!

Right, I guess I deserve it. I greatly respect all trades and realize that gas is unforgiving. So the consensus is that NO gas work should be DIY?

 

[Redwood]

Among many of us...

 

[SewerRatz]

Right, I guess I deserve it. I greatly respect all trades and realize that gas is unforgiving. So the consensus is that NO gas work should be DIY?

Well most of think that because of simple mistakes a DIYer can make like using a reducing bushing in the gas line instead of a reducing coupling.

 

[Reg]

Well most of think that because of simple mistakes a DIYer can make like using a reducing bushing in the gas line instead of a reducing coupling.

You are correct - you got me. I really have no room to stand on that one - plain and simple ignorance on my part. That being said, and no offense to any professionals, I've seen alot of shortcuts and shoddy work done by "pros" who know better. No one cares more about a home's systems and safety than the one who has to sleep there (me), but I also realize that I am not well trained in all disciplines. That's why I came to this DIY forum to get some feedback. I'm not doing this to really save a buck, I actually like to take on tasks as long as I feel I understand a process well enough to do it properly. I do appreciate my shortcomings (bushing) being pointed out.

I plan on pressure-testing the installation and doing it right. If anyone sees anything wrong with my plan, tell me now and I'll bail and call a professional. I'm not above doing that, I just thought this was reasonably simple and straightforward, provided I ditch the bushing.

Thanks again all.

 

[hj]

tee

Use the proper reducing tee and you will not need a reducing coupling OR a bushing. BUT, that valve will be a redundant one, because you WILL NEED one above the floor behind the range.

 

[NHmaster]

OK, now I have the helmet on.

 

[Redwood]

Ah yes I see that now NH Master...

Looking good as always...

 

[jwilson]

BTW - I was questioning the bushing thing in my head, did some research and found that the IFGC DOES NOT prohibit bushings generally - it PROHIBITS CAST IRON bushings and CI pipe in gas, thus as far as I can see the bronze bushing shown is fine, as would be a black (malleable) iron bushing.

See Illustrated Guide to the International Plumbing & Fuel Gas Codes

 

[Redwood]

I'm wondering where you are that you are not looking at this code...

http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/AboutTheCodes.asp?DocNum=54&cookie_test=1