Does this meet code?

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  1. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    One of the other sites I read regularly has this thread http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1179098&posted=1#post1179098 about how the cover was able to be installed on the uneven tiled surface. I was wondering if the gaps between the cover and the tile caused by the unevenness presents a code problem or not. It is an appearance issue, which is why the OP asked the question.

    Thoughts? Is this addressed in the electrical codes? How to resolve his issue is another thing, but wondering if it must be done or not.
  2. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Ah, the last photo tells the tale. The screw head is accessible.

    Two different questions: is it to code, and would an inspector flag it? I'd say no and yes.

    There are products that would resolve this as it sits. There are extension rings that would extend the box out to the back of the faceplate, in both metal and plastic, that could be applied here.

    What would have been very good but quite expensive would have been to use adjustable boxes. These are great in kitchens or any other place where the depth of the tile and stone to be applied to the walls is unpredictable. After the wall is finished, a few screws are backed off and the box moves out to the right place.

    I'd use the extension rings in this application.

    It is actually painfully pretentious. There was no reason that the tile setter could not have produced a consistently flush surface in the area around the electrical.
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  3. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    If the entire box had been brought forward so IT was flush with the "highest" surface, there would be no problem, but in this case the terminal screw is visible so someone, possibly a child, could slide a metal object into the box and receive a shock.
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    ActionDave Electrician

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    406.5 Receptacle Mounting
    (F) Exposed Terminals. Receptacles shall be enclosed so
    that live wiring terminals are not exposed to contact.
  5. Hackney plumbing

    Hackney plumbing Homeowner

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    YUUUP YUUUP YUUUP I agree.
  6. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Well, yeah, if you want to get all technical about it!

    Exposed conductors and screws are illegitimate, to be sure.

    Bloody tile setter should not have set it like that.
  7. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Thanks, thought it was a problem, but don't have a code book. I passed the (bad) news on to him.
  8. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    It can be made right for about ten dollars in parts.
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  9. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Jad,

    Arlington makes plastic box extenders in one, two, three and four gang. be1, be2, be3, be4.

    I am sure that you can find them easily. Nil desperatum, as we say in Rome.
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