what toilet to buy

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by deb8997, May 20, 2005.

  1. deb8997

    deb8997 New Member

    Oct 9, 2004
    well we are returning our American Standard champion toilet i had enough with it running and adjustments we made are now working,so my question is which toilet from home depot should we buy what has been your experience with toilets from there.
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

    Aug 31, 2004
    Cave Creek, Arizona

    American Standard is supposed to have revised the flush valve to cure that problem.
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  4. Snowman

    Snowman New Member

    Mar 17, 2005
    Retired math teacher
    My first choice was the Toto. Which I bought and love it. :p Wait,,, how can you L O V E a toilet???

    My sceond choice was Kohler Cimarron: https://terrylove.com/wc/kohler_cimarron.htm

    That's my unprofessional opinion.......
  5. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    Bothell, Washington

    Here's a little note I got the other day

    "About one year ago I installed three American Standard Champion toilets in a
    friends home, to replace three, cheap, builder installs. All three leak
    water from the tank and refill regularily and it's noisy. All three were
    installed within one degree level...what else would be pertinent to know?
    (The owner didn't register the toilets, so a warranty fix can't be pursued.)
    Is this a common problem? I've steered other folks away from the Champion
    model based on this experience and the fact that nobody I've asked (a
    plumbing supply store and a plumber) has an answer for what's wrong with the
    toilets. To replace a flush valve before one year seems absurd to me, but
    maybe there's a clue I'm not picking up on. Any ideas?"

    Or how about this email?

    "The last straw is this slow leak between the bowl and tank. The AS Champion is about the
    poorest excuse for a product I have ever owned. Believe me, it is going to the
    junk yard, and I will NEVER buy another AS product as long as I live!

    I have had the AS Champion for about 6 months, and have had nothing but
    trouble with it, and it has the "new, improved flush valve".

    I have suffered through loose tank to bowl fittings, flush tower sticking, rocking
    tanks and the "clunk" and even through all that, I thought I could live with the Champion because
    it does have a fast and good cleaning flush (even though the clunk is bad at night). AS
    should really do the right thing and recall this piece of junk, and replace the flush
    tower with a good old reliable larger flapper like other manufacturers use!

    My biggest problem is that the rubber washer (thats about all you can call it) on the so
    called "new and improved flush tower" gets knocked out of its flush tower grove
    sometimes by the forceful fall of the tower. Boy, someone should take a lesson from
    other toilet manufactures and should go back to the old "flapper".
    Anyway, this causes
    a slow leak between tank and bowl (see below). I have to re seat the rubber ring into
    the grove on the flush tower, and that fix will last, oh, maybe, 6 days, at most!

    John Kimble
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