Washing Machine Drain in Kitchen

[detroittola]

It is not uncommon for folks to come to the forum trying to get approval for improper plumbing ideas. In spite of our advice, they will continue to argue, hoping to find someone who will agree with what they want. It just doesn't work that way.

I'm not looking for anyone's approval. I knew it wasn't up to code when I started. I'm looking for reasons that it won't work that I might have missed. So far I know that I could burn out my drain pump. I'm willing to accept this as a risk. I've heard of no other negative scenarios that are based on actual principles of fluid flow.

It is not uncommon for folks in the trade to come on here and talk down to DIYs quoting the code as if it were biblical. Let's not forget that politics are involved in writing the code. The code can also be slow to change for say front load washers vs top load washers.

 

[Bluebinky]

I'm not looking for anyone's approval. I knew it wasn't up to code when I started. I'm looking for reasons that it won't work that I might have missed. So far I know that I could burn out my drain pump. I'm willing to accept this as a risk. I've heard of no other negative scenarios that are based on actual principles of fluid flow.

It is not uncommon for folks in the trade to come on here and talk down to DIYs quoting the code as if it were biblical. Let's not forget that politics are involved in writing the code. The code can also be slow to change for say front load washers vs top load washers.

DIYers seem to be welcome here. Asking a question and the arguing with the answer usually doesn't go too well.

The code is not "biblical", it is a minimum standard. Politics? Really? As far as front loaders, the UPC was changed to 2 inch drains, not 3/4 inch...

 

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[Jadnashua]

The codes were written and evolved by experience and trying to keep everyone safe from those 'what if' situations. You should try to do it at least to the minimum code.

 

[detroittola]

The codes were written and evolved by experience and trying to keep everyone safe from those 'what if' situations. You should try to do it at least to the minimum code.

I cannot have a washer/dryer in my condo unit and still follow code. If possible, I would have done exactly that. All I was asking for were possible problems associated with my work around. I don't see a safety issue and no one has pointed one out. I have ran it a couple of times now and it seems to be working fine. To say that things won't work and/or won't be safe if the code is violated is a major cop out. I just thought I'd get more thought out responses than "you are violating the code so it will never work."

 

[detroittola]

DIYers seem to be welcome here. Asking a question and the arguing with the answer usually doesn't go too well.

The code is not "biblical", it is a minimum standard. Politics? Really? As far as front loaders, the UPC was changed to 2 inch drains, not 3/4 inch...

My drain is actually 1 1/2". The 3/4" PVC is effectively an extended drain hose since it is the same size as the hose. The place was built in 1972. It works so far and I don't even see any water backing up in the sink.

 

[DonL]

So does your Condo have a shared laundry room ?

Did the owner approve your install ?

 

[Houptee]

I'm not looking for anyone's approval. I knew it wasn't up to code when I started. I'm looking for reasons that it won't work that I might have missed. So far I know that I could burn out my drain pump. I'm willing to accept this as a risk. I've heard of no other negative scenarios that are based on actual principles of fluid flow.

It is not uncommon for folks in the trade to come on here and talk down to DIYs quoting the code as if it were biblical. Let's not forget that politics are involved in writing the code. The code can also be slow to change for say front load washers vs top load washers.

Yes you are correct politics and special interests do have impact on the codes, such as the long delayed approval of PEX in the USA, and the looming requirement to install residential fire sprinklers in new single family homes.

Since we live in a so-called free country, you can install whatever you want but with the knowledge that your actions could result in property damage to your own, or others property, so there is inherent risk in doing work without a permit and inspections, and you will be liable personally for the actions you take.

But without risk comes no reward.

So if you are willing to take a risk of a leak and deal with its consequences for the reward of having a washer and dyer in your condo then that is your decision just be careful and check for leaks daily and hope you never have issues before you move out.

 

[DonL]

Yes you are correct politics and special interests do have impact on the codes, such as the long delayed approval of PEX in the USA, and the looming requirement to install residential fire sprinklers in new single family homes.

Since we live in a so-called free country, you can install whatever you want but with the knowledge that your actions could result in property damage to your own, or others property, so there is inherent risk in doing work without a permit and inspections, and you will be liable personally for the actions you take.

But without risk comes no reward.

So if you are willing to take a risk of a leak and deal with its consequences for the reward of having a washer and dyer in your condo then that is your decision just be careful and check for leaks daily and hope you never have issues before you move out.

I must say, That was nice.


Have a Great Day.

 

[detroittola]

So does your Condo have a shared laundry room ?

Did the owner approve your install ?

Yes, off of the shared parking garage. It's not uncommon for clothes to be stolen from these machines.

I am the owner, so yes.

 

[detroittola]

Yes you are correct politics and special interests do have impact on the codes, such as the long delayed approval of PEX in the USA, and the looming requirement to install residential fire sprinklers in new single family homes.

Since we live in a so-called free country, you can install whatever you want but with the knowledge that your actions could result in property damage to your own, or others property, so there is inherent risk in doing work without a permit and inspections, and you will be liable personally for the actions you take.

But without risk comes no reward.

So if you are willing to take a risk of a leak and deal with its consequences for the reward of having a washer and dyer in your condo then that is your decision just be careful and check for leaks daily and hope you never have issues before you move out.

I 100% agree with everything that you said.

 

[Asktom]

The problem comes if the sink drain starts to back up - the combination of greasy water and linty water are a classic clog compo. If it does happen, hope you aren't defrosting a turkey in the sink while washing a big batch of dirty shorts.

 

[DonL]

Yes, off of the shared parking garage. It's not uncommon for clothes to be stolen from these machines.

I am the owner, so yes.

That does suck, that people would take your clothes. They need Video cameras so you can watch from your condo, and grab your shotgun.

That is cool that you gave yourself permission, I do that all the time.


Good Luck.

 

[Houptee]

Like asktom said, and also remember, when you reconnect the dishwasher to the disposal, and if you turn on the disposal, dishwasher, and washer draining all at same time it will backup into the sink!

 

[detroittola]

Like asktom said, and also remember, when you reconnect the dishwasher to the disposal, and if you turn on the disposal, dishwasher, and washer draining all at same time it will backup into the sink!

We won't run them both at the same time although we put in a deep single basin sink so I'm sure it can handle a backup if it ever happens. The most water my washer will ever use is 13 gallons for a full load.