Vent problem

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Hi,
We have a 2 story apartment building with a basement. As far back as I can remember (18 years or so), the second floor has had an issue with sewer gas. It seems that when one does laundry on that floor, there will come a sewer gas smell. I don’t have a lot of precision on the sequence of events- only that it happens around laundry.

The stack in the wet wall behind the laundry pipe is shared with the second floor sink (including dishwasher), the first floor sink and dishwasher, and the basement sink. When the laundry drains on the second floor, the first floor sink gets a gurgling sound.

The building has a flat roof so I went up there and stuck a snake down the 4” vent pipe. I discovered a hard blockage in the vent, only 2 feet down. So I cleared it out. Then I discovered a blockage only 1 more foot down, so I cleaned that out too. Then I shoved my entire 50 foot snake down the pipe, and all seemed clear. But a week later the tenant told me that the smell remained.

I went back and thrust my snake into the pipe, and discovered what felt like a partial blockage about 8 feet down. This is right where a tee should be in the laundry room on the second floor, so I’m not sure if I was hitting the tee or some sort of blockage. It actually felt like I was hitting something flexible, like an asphalt or cardboard flap. But maybe I was just hitting the joint in the tee.

Pictures are attached. I have a 4" vent pipe on the roof, about 23" away from the wall. I have a picture of the basement too, which shows no pipes that are 23" from the wall. So my roof vent pipe takes a turn at some point. I have pictures of the plumbing on the second floor. The blockage that I'm feeling is right at the upper arrow, in the picture. That's 8 feet down from the roof. The lower arrow is pointing towards the trap for the laundry drain. I wonder if that trap is deep enough. The tee to the left, by the X, is unused and it's covered. I don't think there's any smell coming from there.

At this point I’m not sure what my next move is. We had a plumber over to look at the situation but the only thing they discovered was a way to pull $1000 from my bank account.

Any suggestions on where to go next would be appreciated.

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John Gayewski

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Does the gurgling sound remain. If so it doesn't necessarily mean that a blocked vent is causing that. I think your better off findi.g the cause of the smell exactly before prodding around in the system.

See if the trap il the thing letting the smell into house or if it's a break somewhere first.

I'm not sure all of the things your describn are related or you have a partial vent blockage along with other issues.
 

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As far back as I can remember (18 years or so), the second floor has had an issue with sewer gas. It seems that when one does laundry on that floor, there will come a sewer gas smell.
Which photos show the second floor?
 

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so the laundry on second floor is coming down a seperate stack i assume because when you say what fixtures are coming down from above you mention nothing about the wash machine being in that stack. There is oddball thap in the wall at a sink it apears some improper wet venting but I see nothing causing a stink might be improperly plumbed for suds relief too no real answers for you sorry
 

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I bought a cheap $70 Amazon camera. I went down 2 feet and saw that the roof vent is not even connected to the pipe. So my plumber is going to get in there and connect them back up. I think the vent pipe is blocked.
When I pushed the snake down there earlier, I was likely just feeding it into the ceiling of the apartment. Not down through the plumbing. Dang. :p
 

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Not the issue but I would remove that roofing material from inside the vent pipe at the top. That vent chokes down a bit at the top. Put some brass window screen over it to keep critters out.
 

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Also one good snow and the entire vent is shut down. Pretty low on the roofline.
 
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