Toto Drake vs. Ultramax

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by markrv, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. markrv

    markrv New Member

    Aug 31, 2009

    My wife and I are trying to decide between a Drake and an Ultramax for our master bath. The toilet would be ADA compliant and would be the oval bowl shape. While the Drake seems to beat the Ultramax on the quantity of material flushed (900 vs. 700 grams) the reviews for both seem to be good. Can you help us make the choice?

  2. Peanut9199

    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

    Apr 23, 2007
    Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale
    Ontario, Canada
    Really the only choice is do you want a 2piece Drake or a 1piece Ultramax.
    Flushing wise you don't need to worry.
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  4. markrv

    markrv New Member

    Aug 31, 2009
    2 Piece or 1 Piece

    Are there any advantages of one over the other?

  5. Gary Swart

    Gary Swart In the Trades

    Sep 1, 2004
    Yakima WA
    The one piece is easier to clean is about the only real advantage of one over the other. After that, it's which do you like the appearance of and perhaps the price difference. Either one will work very well.
  6. SteveW

    SteveW DIY Senior Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    I bought and installed 2 one-piece Gwyneths. (I think the name has since been changed.)

    (I highly recommend that model. Has the new double-cyclone bowl wash.)

    The one-piece Gwyneth has a lower MaP score than the two-piece. I bought the one-piece anyway since I really prefer the clean look of the one-piece model. Have not had any trouble with it. As Terry says, any MaP over 500 is just fine.

    Some don't like the one-piece models since they are a little harder to install (heavier). On the other hand, no joint between tank and bowl to potentially leak. Some Toto owners have had trouble tightening the tank-to-bowl bolts. Not a big deal, generally, but again, I prefer the one-piece anyway for aesthetic reasons and not having to mess with that connection is icing on the cake.
  7. Runs with bison

    Runs with bison Member

    Aug 23, 2009
    Price. You can get a Drake for about $160 less than the comparable Ultramax. I'm not knocking the Ultramax though. My in-laws have one and that is one reason I'm comfortable trying the Toto Eco-Drake. (I've got an Eco-Drake with Sanigloss ordered locally for about $260 before tax, elongated, but standard height.) The Eco-Drake is MaP rated at 600 in standard height, 900 in ADA. If I have any trouble with it as an HET, a flapper change will convert it to a standard Drake.
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