Toilet Base - Stability
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As in sliding, or as in rocking?
For sliding, the caulk actually helps.
For rocking, you need to position shims. They should be placed before dropping the wax and the toilet for the final time.
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Regardless of the shape of the base, it is not uncommon to need some shims to keep it stable from rocking. That is critical as the wax seal will be compromised if it rocks, then rocks back after being compressed...it's not a spring!
And, yes, the wider/longer the base is, in theory, would be more stable, but when properly installed, that typically isn't an issue at all. Especially over a tiled floor, with the two hard surfaces, there's not much friction, and the anchor bolts can allow the toilet to move. That is one reason why they call for caulking around the front 3/4'ers of the toilet. Once that cures, it really doesn't matter the shape of the toilet base...
You do want the flange to be solidly anchored, but you don't want to excessively tighten the bolts...you're likely to crack the toilet...porcelain is strong, but it's not springy...it's very brittle. The bolts don't need to be super tight and you should compress the wax with pushing down on the toilet with your body weight, not by screwing down the nuts...just tighten them up after the toilet is sitting on the floor then caulk.
And, yes, the wider/longer the base is, in theory, would be more stable, but when properly installed, that typically isn't an issue at all. Especially over a tiled floor, with the two hard surfaces, there's not much friction, and the anchor bolts can allow the toilet to move. That is one reason why they call for caulking around the front 3/4'ers of the toilet. Once that cures, it really doesn't matter the shape of the toilet base...
You do want the flange to be solidly anchored, but you don't want to excessively tighten the bolts...you're likely to crack the toilet...porcelain is strong, but it's not springy...it's very brittle. The bolts don't need to be super tight and you should compress the wax with pushing down on the toilet with your body weight, not by screwing down the nuts...just tighten them up after the toilet is sitting on the floor then caulk.
Thanks Guys! I like the looks of the Cadet Ovation which gets decent reviews by users. Pros may have a different opinion. I just finished installing my LVP flooring and will be heading to the big orange box to pick up a pair of toilets in the days ahead.
I'm also debating if the oblong toilet will be to big for the smaller of the two bathrooms. Typical small bathroom --- toilet between vanity and tub. The oblong will have around 28" to 29" to the wall in front of the toilet. You have to walk in front of the toilet to get to the tub.
I'm also debating if the oblong toilet will be to big for the smaller of the two bathrooms. Typical small bathroom --- toilet between vanity and tub. The oblong will have around 28" to 29" to the wall in front of the toilet. You have to walk in front of the toilet to get to the tub.
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