JackLambert
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Hello,
So, I have a shop that I am putting a bathroom in. Should be a just stupid-simple job, right? Well, I have an inspector that seems to be making up code rules just to bust my balls (he's openly stated that he doesn't think homeowners shouldn't ever touch plumbing, and that I should have to pay a professional (who wants $5,000 to install $500 worth of materials, which I can't afford)). Anyway, he's told me a bunch of stuff that just boggles my mind, because I see diagrams all over the internet (including here) that look like exactly what I was planning to do. But who knows, maybe I'm just dumb, and maybe my search skills for the code book are bad, so I'm hoping I can run some of the things he's telling me by you good folks, and someone can confirm (or deny) my opinion of the inspector.
First, see the attached pic - it shows the basic layout, along with the two different proposed lav sink drain scenarios, both of which I'm being told are code violations.
Option #1 (the original plan - now under concrete so I can't change it) was to have the lav sink dump into the section of vertical pipe that's below the toilet. Inspector rejected that idea a month or so ago, last time he was out, and told me (at that time) to do it like Option #2 blow. OK, I don't really think a vented lav sink on a 2" drain pipe is going to create a problem draining into a 4" pipe below the toilet (which is vented again about 18 inches past where the 2" pipe connects to it), but I can see how we might technically rule that as a code violation since it could (in theory, I guess) siphon the toilet trap above.
Option #2 Run the lav sink over and dump it into the 3" vent stack. On his most recent visit (today), he tells me he's sorry he told me to do it this way last time, but he has since read the code book again and realizes now that I can't drain into the vent stack at all, and I have to either jackhammer up the concrete and redo everything underground, or I have to cut a hole in the side of the shop and run a pipe out to the exterior and then dig down and connect that to the main line heading for the septic field.
OK, so Option #1, I could kind of maybe see the code-logic - but option #2 is illegal? Come on - the internet is littered with diagrams of plumbing systems that drain into the vent stack! Are they all wrong? Am I crazy? Or is this guy just busting my balls because he can?
Any advice would be much appreciated (particularly if someone can point out some section of the code I could go back at him with to argue either of the two proposed methods above is kosher - maybe quoting him chapter and verse will get this done with).
Thanks,
So, I have a shop that I am putting a bathroom in. Should be a just stupid-simple job, right? Well, I have an inspector that seems to be making up code rules just to bust my balls (he's openly stated that he doesn't think homeowners shouldn't ever touch plumbing, and that I should have to pay a professional (who wants $5,000 to install $500 worth of materials, which I can't afford)). Anyway, he's told me a bunch of stuff that just boggles my mind, because I see diagrams all over the internet (including here) that look like exactly what I was planning to do. But who knows, maybe I'm just dumb, and maybe my search skills for the code book are bad, so I'm hoping I can run some of the things he's telling me by you good folks, and someone can confirm (or deny) my opinion of the inspector.
First, see the attached pic - it shows the basic layout, along with the two different proposed lav sink drain scenarios, both of which I'm being told are code violations.
Option #1 (the original plan - now under concrete so I can't change it) was to have the lav sink dump into the section of vertical pipe that's below the toilet. Inspector rejected that idea a month or so ago, last time he was out, and told me (at that time) to do it like Option #2 blow. OK, I don't really think a vented lav sink on a 2" drain pipe is going to create a problem draining into a 4" pipe below the toilet (which is vented again about 18 inches past where the 2" pipe connects to it), but I can see how we might technically rule that as a code violation since it could (in theory, I guess) siphon the toilet trap above.
Option #2 Run the lav sink over and dump it into the 3" vent stack. On his most recent visit (today), he tells me he's sorry he told me to do it this way last time, but he has since read the code book again and realizes now that I can't drain into the vent stack at all, and I have to either jackhammer up the concrete and redo everything underground, or I have to cut a hole in the side of the shop and run a pipe out to the exterior and then dig down and connect that to the main line heading for the septic field.
OK, so Option #1, I could kind of maybe see the code-logic - but option #2 is illegal? Come on - the internet is littered with diagrams of plumbing systems that drain into the vent stack! Are they all wrong? Am I crazy? Or is this guy just busting my balls because he can?
Any advice would be much appreciated (particularly if someone can point out some section of the code I could go back at him with to argue either of the two proposed methods above is kosher - maybe quoting him chapter and verse will get this done with).
Thanks,
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