Kulig
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Sure, but still don’t know why in This situation hot water flow is ok, but cold is pretty low
will see if check valve helps
will see if check valve helps
Shared well pump with regular pressure switch with high pressure 88psi
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Kulig
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First house got regular switch like this one on the attached pic
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It could still be constant pressure if it has a Cycle Stop Valve. But if not that switch will have 20 PSI difference between on and off like on at 40 and off at 60 PSI.
Kulig
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I was wondering if your Cycle Stop Valve set will help with submersible well pump longevity since pump company’s start messing up with very thin layer of stainless steel on pumps?
Kulig
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Just going to install new tank btw and check what’s going on with that switch on neighbors side
Kulig
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Installed new pressure tank (waste of time) but check valve helps a lot and there are 4 houses that sharing the well
1st house got damaged gauge so probably the pressure is 60-80 but tank pressure is at 25psi dunno why
since it was a waste of time with second pressure tank I purged all air from it and got now 60-71 psi at 2nd house, still need whole house filter because pump sucking some debris that messing everything
all 4 houses got pressure tanks dunno why and no check valves
at least 3 suppose to have a check valve
need to replace faucet that is damaged because of that debris
1st house got damaged gauge so probably the pressure is 60-80 but tank pressure is at 25psi dunno why
since it was a waste of time with second pressure tank I purged all air from it and got now 60-71 psi at 2nd house, still need whole house filter because pump sucking some debris that messing everything
all 4 houses got pressure tanks dunno why and no check valves
at least 3 suppose to have a check valve
need to replace faucet that is damaged because of that debris
Bannerman
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A pressure tank is not needed for each home. There should be only 1 pressure tank, located where the pressure switch is located. There also should be only one check valve located at the bottom of the well at the outlet of the submersible pump.
When any of the 4 houses is drawing water, the single pressure tank will supply that water until the system pressure is lowered to 60 psi whereby the pump will become activated. Once the pressure switch senses the system pressure has risen to 80 psi, the pressure switch will shut off the pump. If a CSV is utilized, then the pump will continue to operate for as long as water is being drawn, and the system pressure will not rise to 80 psi until after no water is further needed.
If there is debris being pumped from the well, a filter directly after the pressure tank and pressure switch will be needed. A filter you may want to consider is Atlas Filtri Hydra:
When any of the 4 houses is drawing water, the single pressure tank will supply that water until the system pressure is lowered to 60 psi whereby the pump will become activated. Once the pressure switch senses the system pressure has risen to 80 psi, the pressure switch will shut off the pump. If a CSV is utilized, then the pump will continue to operate for as long as water is being drawn, and the system pressure will not rise to 80 psi until after no water is further needed.
If there is debris being pumped from the well, a filter directly after the pressure tank and pressure switch will be needed. A filter you may want to consider is Atlas Filtri Hydra:
Kulig
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I added check valve because it’s old installation and usually check valve will fail that helps me a lot with pressure at 2nd house because there will be no pressure drops when 1 of 4 houses use water so in my opinion all 3 of 4 houses suppose to have check valve actually if check valve fail on main line pump will cycling and fail sooner or later that will save water heater element
If you want more pressure, checking what is going on with that switch is the only way to get it.
Kulig
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it’s good right now. Just need to add whole house filter, check valve helps a lot plus tank tee was so rusted and got flow issues neighbors with pump switch are really annoying, some electricity billing issues with others neighbors plus pump replacement bill in the past, it’s not my business but they are annoying just trying to avoid doing anything there
Kulig
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Definitely will install this in my house thx
If using a CSV, it needs to be in line with the pressure switch.
What are you filtering? A backwashing filtering might be called for.
Bannerman
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A CSV regulates the flow directly from the pump. Unless all of the flow from the pump is routed through your home before feeding the pressure tank, pressure switch and the other homes, a CSV for only your home will provide no benefit.
If one owner is paying for the cost of operating and maintaining the pump, it's understandable for that owner to be reluctant to perform updates and upgrades. There should be a formal contract as a condition of homeownership in that community, so each owner will share equally the ownership, maintenance and operating costs for the entire water system.
The pressure tank, pressure switch, CSV and other treatment systems should also be rightly located in a separate pump house located nearby to the well so the equipment will be easily accessible for maintenance, repair and upgrades.
Kulig
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at home got standard installation 40/60 without CSV 1hp well pump at 270ft using only copper pipes mostly 1” because of master bath with 3/4“ supply for rain shower head and 3 body sprays plus hand shower (no 3-way), was wondering to switch to CSV, because w using laundry a lot and got low pressure when taking shower, plus second bath that is almost done
got some whole house filter from home depot but want to change it
LLigetfa
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CSV will not solve a supply a shortage problem. Now if you only see poor pressure prior to the pump coming on at 40 PSI and if the pressure is good at 60 PSI, the CSV will be an improvement.
If you cannot find joy when there is 60 PSI at the tank, you need to first fix the supply shortage problem.
Kulig
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Pressure is good at 60, got only issue doing laundry - feels that 40-60 differential on 3/4” pipes in bath
well pump is goulds 1hp so its not an issue
Kulig
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I think CSV 50/70 will solve that issue
If the pump never turns off and the pressure just stays low when running the wash and a shower, the pump and/or the well is not large enough. If the pump is cycling on and off while using water, cycling at low pressure is causing the low pressure issue and a CSV will make a dramatic difference. Upping the pressure switch to 50/70 and setting the CSV1A for 60 or 65 PSI constant would be such an improvement you will no longer even need soap in the shower. 
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