Jim Hamilton
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Long time reader, first time poster. I just finished my first bathroom gut and remodel where the forum was invaluable in researching ideas and best practices. I'm now moving onto my second bathroom remodel. I have everything squared away, with the exception of the bathtub. I'm trying to hone in on the best solution with the following criteria:
An image of the concept would look like the following (but with a right drain vs the left that's shown):
My googling has put the following tubs at the top of my list. I listed the pros and cons based on my online reading, but would greatly appreciate the input of others who have more experience or thoughts.
1. Kohler Underscore. K-1121-R-0.
Pros: I tried one at a showroom, and it felt relatively sturdy.
Cons: Most expensive of the options. It's hard to justify an extra $400-$500 vs the other options unless there's a compelling reason.
2. Kohler Archer. K-1946-R-0
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I'm worried about the durability / ruggedness. The 30 inch Archer tubs appear to now be made of ExoCrylic where other models are the older "standard" acrylic. The reviews online worry me that the ExoCrylic is more flimsy than the previously used acrylic. Additionally, it looks like Kohler removed the "arm" rests in the 30" Archer line, which I'm guessing makes the sides feel flimsier yet. (Compare the K-1946-R-0 to the
K-1123-RA-0 for an example of the difference). I don't want to special order a tub only to find its sides flapping in the wind... I do plan to use a mortar bed FWIW.
3. American Standard Studio. 2973.112.011
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I don't know much about American Standard tubs. Visually it has a larger lip than the other models.
4. Duravit D-Code. 700405
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I can't find any Duravit bathtub reviews, install videos, etc. Kind of an unknown, but looks nice on paper. I can't see the color in person to match against my white tile.
I have a hard time finding much info on the Duravit model in particular, let alone seeing it in a showroom to try it out. I'll likely be ordering the tub online so want to reduce the chance that I'll be returning the tub due to surprises in quality, or similar.
If I had a gun to my head today, I'd go with the Duravit based on fear of a flimsy Archer, Duravit's decent reputation, and it's lower price than the Underscore. Any input on the ruggedness of Kohler's ExoCrylic Archer, Duravit, American Standard, or something else not on my radar would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the great site!
- Alcove installation with the drain on the right. The alcove walls will be tiled. I have basement access under the tub and subfloor.
- 60" long, and can support up to 32" wide
- Tub will be primarily used as a shower, with infrequent use as a tub for kids and grandparents
- The wife likes the look of a tiled front, so I don't want an integral apron.
- I'd like an integrated flange on the 3 sides based on my reading, ie I wouldn't feel great putting a drop-in tub in then adding my own flange.
An image of the concept would look like the following (but with a right drain vs the left that's shown):
My googling has put the following tubs at the top of my list. I listed the pros and cons based on my online reading, but would greatly appreciate the input of others who have more experience or thoughts.
1. Kohler Underscore. K-1121-R-0.
Pros: I tried one at a showroom, and it felt relatively sturdy.
Cons: Most expensive of the options. It's hard to justify an extra $400-$500 vs the other options unless there's a compelling reason.
2. Kohler Archer. K-1946-R-0
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I'm worried about the durability / ruggedness. The 30 inch Archer tubs appear to now be made of ExoCrylic where other models are the older "standard" acrylic. The reviews online worry me that the ExoCrylic is more flimsy than the previously used acrylic. Additionally, it looks like Kohler removed the "arm" rests in the 30" Archer line, which I'm guessing makes the sides feel flimsier yet. (Compare the K-1946-R-0 to the
K-1123-RA-0 for an example of the difference). I don't want to special order a tub only to find its sides flapping in the wind... I do plan to use a mortar bed FWIW.
3. American Standard Studio. 2973.112.011
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I don't know much about American Standard tubs. Visually it has a larger lip than the other models.
4. Duravit D-Code. 700405
Pros: Relatively inexpensive.
Cons: I can't find any Duravit bathtub reviews, install videos, etc. Kind of an unknown, but looks nice on paper. I can't see the color in person to match against my white tile.
I have a hard time finding much info on the Duravit model in particular, let alone seeing it in a showroom to try it out. I'll likely be ordering the tub online so want to reduce the chance that I'll be returning the tub due to surprises in quality, or similar.
If I had a gun to my head today, I'd go with the Duravit based on fear of a flimsy Archer, Duravit's decent reputation, and it's lower price than the Underscore. Any input on the ruggedness of Kohler's ExoCrylic Archer, Duravit, American Standard, or something else not on my radar would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the great site!
