Questions on installing timer switch

Users who are viewing this thread

Patflemming

New Member
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
Ontario, Canada
I have three 1-way light switches and one bathroom fan switch in the same 4 gang electrical box. I want to replace the regular fan switch with a timer switch.

There seems to be a hot wire running from switch to switch. Do I disconnect this wire and install the new timer switch? There is a bundle of neutrals in the back of the box but none are running from the switches.

I welcome some step by step on how to connect the timer switch. It has a hot, ground, load ans neutral wire.
 

Attachments

  • 20191222_215443.jpg
    20191222_215443.jpg
    64.2 KB · Views: 247
  • 20191001_191927.jpg
    20191001_191927.jpg
    80.3 KB · Views: 230
  • 20191001_191857.jpg
    20191001_191857.jpg
    69.5 KB · Views: 203

Stuff

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,221
Reaction score
130
Points
63
Location
Pennsylvania
  1. Turn off power.
  2. Remove connections to old switch.
  3. Take the hot running switch-to-switch wire and use wire nut to attach to new switch hot (line/black)
  4. Take white neutral from new switch and add it to bundle of whites. May need bigger wire nut.
  5. Green ground needs to attach to box ground. Hardest part. Sometimes get another green ground screw and give its own connection to metal box.
  6. Black wire that was feeding fan from old switch needs wire-nutted to red load wire of new switch.
  7. put everything back together and restore power.
 
Last edited:

Stuff

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,221
Reaction score
130
Points
63
Location
Pennsylvania
If yo follow step #6, your light will not turn off. You have to connect the wire going TO the unit to the red one from the timer.
I can see how it wasn't clear. Wording cleaned up so should be make better sense.
 

Patflemming

New Member
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
Ontario, Canada
Thanks to everyone's advice I installed the new timer switch without a problem. I did want to check to see if everything looks good. The switchbox feels a little bit and now. The new timer has four additional wires, A couple more wire nuts oh, and the switch itself is much bulkier than the old switch. I have attached a photo, does everything look good? Everything felt a little bit and jammed when I put the switches back in place.
 

Attachments

  • 20191225_095441.jpg
    20191225_095441.jpg
    66.4 KB · Views: 192
  • 20191225_095116.jpg
    20191225_095116.jpg
    45.4 KB · Views: 234

Jadnashua

Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx
Messages
32,770
Reaction score
1,190
Points
113
Location
New England
You made at least one rookie mistake...all wire connections should wrap clockwise around their screws. Electrical boxes come in various volumes. There's a limit on how much you can stuff in one. You'd have to look up the calculation to see if you've exceeded it.
 

Ameds613

New Member
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
Ontario
jadnashua - funny you mention it... I am not the original owner and did not wire the box. I did notice it was wrapped backwards. I wired the new timer correctly, however.

Just for my own knowledge, what can happen if the connections and wrapped counter clockwise? Should I switch them all?
 

Ameds613

New Member
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
Ontario
here is a more clear picture of the box before installing the timer. The timer i added has 4 wires (hot, load, neutral and ground).
Am i within the allowable limit? box is 2.5" deep
 

Attachments

  • thumbnail_20191001_191927.jpg
    thumbnail_20191001_191927.jpg
    76.8 KB · Views: 195

Jadnashua

Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx
Messages
32,770
Reaction score
1,190
Points
113
Location
New England
Wrapping the loop of wire around the screw clockwise means that when you tighten the screw, it tends to keep the end where you want it rather than moving it out of the screw terminal. Properly torqueing the connection means that there's enough tension to overcome the tendency of loosening the screw from the small thermal expansion/contraction actions that happen as current moves through, slightly heating the wire.
 
Top
Hey, wait a minute.

This is awkward, but...

It looks like you're using an ad blocker. We get it, but (1) terrylove.com can't live without ads, and (2) ad blockers can cause issues with videos and comments. If you'd like to support the site, please allow ads.

If any particular ad is your REASON for blocking ads, please let us know. We might be able to do something about it. Thanks.
I've Disabled AdBlock    No Thanks