Poly Pipe in 500' Well

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I have a new 540' well with a 4" PVC liner that will be serving a four bed, three bath house with two yard hydrants, and I'm deciding what kind of down pipe to use.
My current plan is to set a 2hp pump at 480'. That was the driller's suggestion, sounds good to me, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to be married to those figures. The static water level was at 255' down, and I don't know what the recharge rate is.
I would be comfortable with 1 1/4" schedule 120 PVC (300 psi) for the down pipe. But I prefer continuous roll pipe over segmented straight pipe, partly because I can get a 500' roll of tubing and not have joints every 20', but mostly for installation and pulling the pump. With appropriate rollers I expect to hitch the pipe to the back of my pickup and take off down the yard when the time comes to pull the pump, similar to the way I've pulled aerial cable in the past.
The sch 120 would cost me about $1.89/ft, which is pretty similar to what I expect to be able to get the roll poly pipe for. BUT, the poly pipe isn't rated for such a deep application. And there seem to be a lot of variations of potable polyethylene, or high density polyethylene, HDPE. As an example I see Menard's offers a 500' roll of 1 1/4" SIDR 7, 250 psi poly pipe for about $900. I don't even know if that's suitable for down-hole usage, but it seems to have similar characteristics anyway, and the 250 psi rating is a little better than the 200 psi rating of some similar poly pipe.
So my first question is what's the strongest poly pipe I could use, is 200 or 250 psi the best there is for a comparable price?
If that poly roll from Menard's isn't appropriate for the application, what specifications am I looking for?
And I've seen some discussion of the different pipe types on here, so I'm seeking input from people with actual experience with poly pipe at depths approaching 500' with a 2hp pump.
I would also appreciate a little input on proper connectors because I'm not familiar enough with CTS, NPT, IPS, SDR, SIDR, etc to know what fittings go with what styles of pipe. I expect to use long barb stainless or brass fittings, but if I should be looking at different connectors like pack joint fittings please let me know.
And I'm just expecting to install one check valve near the pump, which brings up the subject of a weep hole between the pump and check valve, because I noticed Hallmark recommends one, but the idea of pumping water out a hole in the side of the pipe seems counterintuitive to me.
Many thanks,
Bill
 

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480' = 207 lbs head
In addition, 65- 70 psi will be needed if planning to configure for a 40/60 psi range of operation.

The additional 5-10 psi above 60 psi, will provide a safety margin, to ensure at least 60 psi will be reliably achieved at the pressure switch, to cause the PS to shut off the pump @60 psi, even while the water level in the well is drawn down to an extremely low level, resulting in water needing to be lifted the full 480' vertical distance.

As 65 psi is equal to 150' of head, the pump chosen should be capable of at least (480 + 150) 630' of head, thereby resulting in a maximum pressure of 274 psi becoming developed directly at the pump's outlet fitting, only when the water level is lowest. The pressure within the drop pipe will continually become reduced by 1 psi for every 2.3' of vertical rise between the pump outlet up to the surface.


just expecting to install one check valve near the pump, which brings up the subject of a weep hole
While a submersible pump will be equipped with an internal check valve, if you wish to install an additional check valve for redundancy, one maybe threaded directly to the pump's outlet fitting, between the pump and drop pipe.

A weep hole will sometimes be utilized above the check valve, to permit the drop and supply pipes to drain, when there is a risk of the drop or supply pipe becoming frozen.

I anticipate your well will be operating year round. I further anticipate a pitless adaptor will be utilized to cause the drop pipe to connect to the horizontal supply pipe below where freezing may occur, and with the supply pipe to your house buried deeper than the usual frost depth for your location. As such, no weep hole should be needed or utilized.
 
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The upper barbed fitting, below the pitless adapter, will be extra-long, with three worm-gear clamps. The worm gears are spaced to not be next to each other. Those are for SIDR pipe.

I think you would want a 7 gpm 1.5 HP pump or a 10 gpm 2.0 pump. You would not want a pump that does not publish curves.


For pulling the pipe, you will want to build a big pulley.

pump pulling poly pipe with truck (over 200 ft): Indiana I think
part 1
pulling pump part 2
The next video shows the rig better. They were putting the new pump down:
part 3 putting new pump down.

I have no relevant experience.
 
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Event though the burst pressure of pipe is 2-5 times the rated pressure, that depth will cause more than 250 PSI on the pipe. At that depth pipe stretch is also a problem. The stretch makes it difficult to keep from chaffing the wire. Not enough slack and it chaffs against the drop pipe. Too much slack and it slaps the casing. Sch 120 won't have the stretch.
 

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Thanks for all of the help, it's much appreciated.
I would like to use the poly pipe, but out of caution I guess I'll just go with the sch 120 that's standard in this area.
 
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