FloridaOrange
Plumbing Designer
I have an odd situation. A local plans reviewer (in only one of the five jurisdictions I do work in) calls any vertical sanitary coming out of the slab a waste stack. With his definition he requires a stack cleanout at below every sink, drinking fountain and urinal. This issue comes up with single story buildings (no basements down here). I've pointed out to him the definitions found within the code which are:
Stack: A general term for any verrtical line of soil, waste, vent or inside conductor pipiing that extends through at least one story with or without offsets.
Stack Vent: The extension of a soil or waste stack above the highest horizontal drain connected to the stack.
The code that he references is:
FPC (Florida Plumbing Code) 2004 708.3.4 - A cleanout shall be provided at the base of each waste or soil stack.
I've been designing plumbing systems for about 7 years now. I was trained by a master plumber and generally I know the plumbing code and general design issues better than most engineers in this area. I have never put a stack cleanout at the base of a urinal, lavatory or water cooler in a single story building! (Exceptions being trap cleanout plugs for specialized uses).
Sorry for the long post and I appreciate your interest, these are my questions:
Has anybody had to deal with an issue like this? If so, were you able to handle it without having to comply with a boneheaded official.
Does anybody have any further definitions or points of view that may help me to deal with this? To get plans through this jurisdiction I've been complying with his request but it's getting ridiculous and potentially expensive on larger projects.
TIA -
Matt
Stack: A general term for any verrtical line of soil, waste, vent or inside conductor pipiing that extends through at least one story with or without offsets.
Stack Vent: The extension of a soil or waste stack above the highest horizontal drain connected to the stack.
The code that he references is:
FPC (Florida Plumbing Code) 2004 708.3.4 - A cleanout shall be provided at the base of each waste or soil stack.
I've been designing plumbing systems for about 7 years now. I was trained by a master plumber and generally I know the plumbing code and general design issues better than most engineers in this area. I have never put a stack cleanout at the base of a urinal, lavatory or water cooler in a single story building! (Exceptions being trap cleanout plugs for specialized uses).
Sorry for the long post and I appreciate your interest, these are my questions:
Has anybody had to deal with an issue like this? If so, were you able to handle it without having to comply with a boneheaded official.
Does anybody have any further definitions or points of view that may help me to deal with this? To get plans through this jurisdiction I've been complying with his request but it's getting ridiculous and potentially expensive on larger projects.
TIA -
Matt