P trap and adapter question

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  1. A.Tomas

    A.Tomas New Member

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    So my question Is similar to a thread I have read here , I did reply to that thread but bc it’s a older thread , I’m asking it’s again bc not sure if I will get a reply.
    Anyways I went and picked up a trap adapter for my waste stub out and it will not allow me to add a washer. In the past diy plumbing experiences with trap adapters I always added a washer around the end of p trap pipe with the compression nut and screwed that into adapter threads. I see this adapter I picked up must have a washer built in because it won’t allow me to add a washer, compression nut won’t screw in with a washer. So if this doesn’t need a added washer bc the washer is indeed built into the nut are these any good compared to the standard nut and separate washer? Do they leak more, less or just as good?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  4. A.Tomas

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    Yeah just terrible, everywhere you turn everything is made cheaper in this world. Hard to find quality goods. Thanks for reply. I might look into that but I have a serious problem where previous homeowner or handyman to the last owner didn’t put a Compression nut and washer or nut with a washer built in on the last tubular pipe part of p trap that going into stub out. So ya that nut on stub out threads isn’t even there. Omg. It’s behind a wall and I kept getting a bad smell very intermittent Over the last year when I ran my whole house/attic fan. Thought it was my shower p trap drying out because it doesn’t get used much. Anyways I’m running to hardware soon just got out of work and getting a few compression nuts and washers.

    *** this is what I’m gonna try for now. Tell me if I should do other wise. I don’t want to have to replace existing threaded adapter, can’t I just pull tubular pvc out of stub out and attach a compression nut over tubular and then attach to threads? Or should I saw off and glue a whole new trap adapter assembly like you showed. I feel like I should be able to to slap a nut on there or would the integrity be better to have brand new. Either way thats what I’m gonna do for now but let me know If it should be cut and glue whole new for possible future problems? Thanks against
     
  5. A.Tomas

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    Yeah just terrible, everywhere you turn everything is made cheaper in this world. Hard to find quality goods. Thanks for reply. I might look into that but I have a serious problem where previous homeowner or handyman to the last owner didn’t put a Compression nut and washer or nut with a washer built in on the last tubular pipe part of p trap that going into stub out. So ya that nut on stub out threads isn’t even there. Omg. It’s behind a wall and I kept getting a bad smell very intermittent Over the last year when I ran my whole house/attic fan. Thought it was my shower p trap drying out because it doesn’t get used much. Anyways I’m running to hardware soon just got out of work and getting a few compression nuts and washers.

    *** this is what I’m gonna try for now. Tell me if I should do other wise. I don’t want to have to replace existing threaded adapter, can’t I just pull tubular pvc out of stub out and attach a compression nut over tubular and then attach to threads? Or should I saw off and glue a whole new trap adapter assembly like you showed. I feel like I should be able to to slap a nut on there or would the integrity be better to have brand new. Either way thats what I’m gonna do for now but let me know If it should be cut and glue whole new for possible future problems? Thanks
     
  6. Jeff H Young

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    Its a 5 minute job whatever floats your boat . Ive installed countless of both , if it leaks replace it
     
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    Ok so I hit a Roadblock. I took all apart and was ready to put together The missing adapter nut and replace p trap . The inner part of existing adapter were the washer would be pressed in from compression nut and make a water tight slip joint has a deformation. It would leak. Outside threads are in good shape. Not agreeing with who did this but see why they didn’t want to take correct measures And fixing right, and Therefore tried to put putty in there. Wow, slackers!! Before I cut drywall and the vertical drain pipe recessed back in the wall to glue a new 90° to attach/glue a new adapter, is there any less of a headache to do all that? I’m looking currently online and can’t find anything, but I am looking for a adapter pc. that perhaps Has a threaded hub end. I’ll attach a pic if I can figure out how. But picture a standard trap adapter with the slip joint end and the side you glue has threads. And I Could screw on a new adapter with threads instead of a glued side over that existing one with some pipe dope? Is there such a thing? Or better option before I pull out vanity and make a bigger hole in the wall?? Thanks again and sorry for the long descriptive verbiage

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qxft3JWToqwRxItFTpx7WQM7LXuFnVks/view?usp=drivesdk


    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KsVG3jhnInUVWm2h_4y-c8Nv44wjSgU_/view?usp=drivesdk
     
  9. Jeff H Young

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    sorry just saw your picture you need more than a plastic nut and a washer . thats plumbed WRONG there is no vent . there is an issue
     
  10. Reach4

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    Probably -- depends on size of threads. Is that 1-1/2 inch nominal, about 1.8 to 1.9 OD?

    Good chance all you need at the wall is a 1-1/2 in. Plastic Slip Joint Nut and washer. [​IMG]
    But that does not address the lack of vent.
    The Rectorseal 97402 Magic Trap with the Rectorseal 97400 AAV, if the AAV clears the bottom of the sink, could add the vent you need. Plus it would include the nut and presumably washer.

    [​IMG] I have not used those, but they look useful. See the top of page 4 of 6 of https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.supplyhouse.com/product_files/rectorseal-97400-productoverview.pdf
     
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  11. Jeff H Young

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    im sure the nut and washer could be ordered and delivered easier than all this
     
  12. Reach4

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    Seems to lack a vent, with elbow in the wall instead of a santee.

    Snip attached is from of his IMG_6828.PNG Google Drive picture.
     

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