Noritz NRCR 111 temp fluctuations during shower

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Sonny goldstone

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Hello

We have been getting this issue since installed - heater is set to 120 and during a shower the temp goes up and down 5-10 degrees multiple times.

anyone have an idea? Very frustrating since we just bought this

thanks

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Was there a cross over valve installed at the farthest fixture for the return line? Might try to valve that line off just for a test.
 

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Was there a cross over valve installed at the farthest fixture for the return line? Might try to valve that line off just for a test.

my house seems to be plumbed in the non traditional straight line arrangement.

I can’t figure out the farthest fixture so I put it on one downstairs that was across the house
 

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I looked up some troubleshooting stuff. I am not a plumber, Tech or own a Noritz. I would go with what the guys say about the cross over. Or maybe a bad mixing valve, Though it is a new unit. But let me ask what type of water heater did you have before? My guess it wasn't a tankless. I also guess you never had this problem with your old system. Besides the crossover and the bleed back. It says The primary cause for temperature fluctuations in a tankless water heater is due to low water pressure. If the water flow in your tankless water heater is too low and dips below the flow activation rate, the main gas burner will turn itself off.

Have you turned the shower on and go to where your unit is. Check on the control panel if you see a change in water pressure. Or if the burner is shutting off. Just a shot in the dark, because if your old unit worked without problems. The Tankless should have enough pressure to work. Also is it separate control valves for your shower hot and cold. Or is it a single control?


Don't know if this relates to your problem for testing but I found this in a search for testing.

A plumbing cross over is a condition whereby cold water is allowed to flow into the hot water system. The plumbing system in a home is divided into two sub-systems, the hot water supply and the cold water supply. The modern home, or a remodeled older home, will most likely have at least one mixing or single handle type faucet installed. Most homes today have an automatic laundry washing machine. Both of these are examples of appliances and fixtures that have a mixing valve. Any mixing valve can allow a cross-over to occur should they become defective. A defective mixing valve will allow a cross-over of hot and cold water, even though there are no visible signs of trouble or leak. A plumbing cross-over can cause a complaint such as ‘water not hot enough’. Testing the hot plumbing system for a cross over can be accomplished by using the following procedure: 1. Close the cold water shut off valve supplying cold water to the heater.
2. Using a faucet with separate HOT and COLD spigots, open the hot faucet only.
3. With the cold water to the heater shut off, once the pressure is relieved, the water should stop running completely. Should the water continue to flow, but at a slower than normal rate, you have one of two conditions. If the slower flow continues but stays HOT, the cold water shut off valve is defective and the test will not be valid. Replace the cold water shut off valve and continue the test. If the water turns COLD, you have cold water crossing over to the hot water plumbing system.
4. To locate the cross-over, first shut off the hose bib (service valves) to the laundry washer. If the water stops flowing at your hot faucet, the washing machine mixing valve is causing the cross-over.
5. If the flow does not stop, then you must check, by feel, each of the feed lines to each of the single handle faucets. If you find one faucet where both feed lines are equally cold, that faucet is allowing an internal cross-over to occur and should be rebuilt or replaced. 6. If none of the above resolve the cross-over, a direct cross-over exists in the plumbing somewhere. This means the hot water sub-system and the cold water sub-system are directly tied together after the water heater. When performing this test in a home that has only mixing (single spigot) faucets, the test must be done twice. Each test must be done using a different faucet. The faucet used for the first test may be causing the problem and should be tested in the off position. In a house with all double handle faucets, you may find a shower head with a built in shut off (shut off valve is connected directly to the shower head). If the user shuts the shower head valve off but leaves the double handle tub facets open, this would allow a direct cross-over to occur.

At least it is something to read and learn if nothing else. Good luck
 
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