No fly zone in Libya

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Ballvalve

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America has its thumb up its ass by allowing our military to spend 550 million dollars TO DATE on bombing these morons. Let france and England give both sides more bombs and hope they all die off at the same time.

How many schools and shleters for the homeless could we build with 550 mil? Or mortage defaults delayed. This is a crime against America.
 

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Stop whinging.

You can afford it.

Or at least your kids and your kids' kids can.

Besides, it's the duty of staff in the armed services to do this sort of work.

You can't stand the idea of firefighers standing around getting salaries, right?
So you make most of them volunteers.

One can only wonder at the American public's anger were it to pay American servicemen and women not to fight.

Libya gives them something else to do.

In England we do not mind paying for the "just in case". Not so here where taxpayers are a lot more greedy & selfish!

America needs to spend a little bit less time worrying about "me and my family" and more time looking after "my neighbor, my Town and my Country".

Welfare Capitalism is what it needs.
 
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Hang on there BV, Raytheon corp makes the guidence systems for them bombs and right now folks are working overtime which is a pretty rare thing these days.
 

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Well, thats great, except the bombs are squandered on a pack of nuts that have no connection whatsoever to our lives and security.

Shoot them into the Pakistan tribal villages where Osama is smoking his water pipe right now, watching re-runs of 9-11 videos.

Let the French and English branches of raytheon take the overtime for this stupid insult to the American taxpayer.

Give the money to an American solar panel maker and they will run overtime too. For a reason that makes sense. And creates a product that is enduring.

I have some land at Walker lake [Hawthorne] Nevada. Google over this incredible desert lake and see the worlds largest depository of bombs and munitions on earth. We are ready for WW 3 here, and because of a lack of enough conventional wars, the main job of this depot is to destroy post dated bombs. Once a week they close the lonely road to California and blow off a pile of bombs that makes every seismograph jump on the west coast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Army_Depot

And Ian, when you visit the west coast, stop in at the ghost town of Babbit, it was built just to house workers to make the bombs that saved the UK's butt in the big war. Its quite a eerie feeling to be amongst hundreds of acres of streets, walkways and foundations, and nothing else around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbitt,_Nevada

Once while driving off road on a VERY lonely road, I came into a bunch of bad ass special ops training with locals dressed in the garb and turbans of our 'friends' in Afghanistan. Quite a show that you wont see on TV.

Have a look at Walker lake. Incredible spot. One of the few terminal desert lakes on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lake_(Nevada)
 
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America needs to spend a little bit less time worrying about "me and my family" and more time looking after "my neighbor, my Town and my Country".

Welfare Capitalism is what it needs.

England needs to spend less time watching its royal morons drop millions and take that money and donate it to Americas poor and to pay off some its debt to all of our soldiers that died on Omaha beach.
 

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The money used for the Royal Wedding is their personal wealth.

Just because we don't mind paying taxes, doesn't mean we don't have rich people.

America would do good to learn from that.

Rich, wealthy and paying taxes do go together.

And most Americans who died in the War did so saving their own butts, against Japan!

Or was Pearl Harbor/Hawaii on English soil?
 
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Or was Pearl Harbor/Hawaii on English soil?

Umm No...

When Captain Cook arrived in the Hawaiian Islands and attempted to claim it for the British Empire...
The Hawaiians rejected his offer....

Hawaii did however deed a small plot of land where a monument marks the spot where they killed him to the Brits....

Fortunately since they never were part of the British Empire they still liked you enough to include the Union Jack in their state flag...
 

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Although the Americans did run away with their tails between their legs during the Paulet affair, didn't they?

They were happy days and the Americans were wise to keep out of the King's business.

They had already caused enough trouble.
 
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Although the Americans did run away with their tails between their legs during the Paulet affair, didn't they?

They were happy days and the Americans were wise to keep out of the King's business.

They had already caused enough trouble.

Ahhh Yes...
The days of French and British Pirates visiting the island paradise....

It's hard to believe that people that call themselves civilized can act like that....

Is that a proud moment in british history Ian?
 

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I am all out. Just this morning I handed my son a stack of coffee filters.
 

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The money used for the Royal Wedding is their personal wealth.

Just because we don't mind paying taxes, doesn't mean we don't have rich people

If the royal dingbats and their crumpet like parents had paid enough taxes, they wouldnt have been able to afford the circus.

And most Americans who died in the War did so saving their own butts, against Japan!

You are correct, we should not have helped the UK in the war. You could have fought the Huns with your wooden gliders and crossbows.

We should have focused on taking over all of the Pacific and Russia, and making each portion a new state.

Then we would be getting some good products out of that island now called 'New Germany' .... Imagine a BMW Range Rover that's not in the garage 7 months of the year!

We could have ferried a good pile of Brits to Australia before the slaughter as a sign of goodwill. Englands Dunkirk to the pacific!

In keeping with Englands system of transportation, CRIMINALS first, then young men, prostitutes, and finally the women and kids.
 
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We could have ferried a good pile of Brits to Australia before the slaughter as a sign of goodwill. Englands Dunkirk to the pacific!

In keeping with Englands system of transportation, CRIMINALS first, then young men, prostitutes, and finally the women and kids.

That would never happen because you are us.

All Americans are Americans. But some might define themselves as African Americans. Others Latino Americans. Or Asian Americans.

And then there are European Americans. Like you.

Yep, America was and still is populated in part by descedants of Europeans.

You are me.

God Save the Queen.
 
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That would never happen because you are us.

All Americans are Americans. But some might define themselves as African Americans. Others Latino Americans. Or Asian Americans.

And then there are European Americans. Like you.

Yep, America was and still is populated in part by descedants of Europeans.

You are me.

God Save the Queen.

Why should God save the Queen? Does she retain a useful purpose? Or is she not like a fancy hood ornament on a Fiat?
 

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Your childs education for the price of a cruise missle. At about a million a pop, every one of the hundred plus cruise missles that were lobbed inefectually into Libya could have bailed out hundreds of school districts that are facing the elimination of teachers in the face of tough economic times. A single cruise missle would pay close to 30 teacher salaries for a year in my state. If I thought that we were just using up old stock so to speak, I might not be so outraged but I know damn well that every single one of those missle's will be replaced.
 

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Why should God save the Queen? Does she retain a useful purpose? Or is she not like a fancy hood ornament on a Fiat?

More of a bumper sticker on a Rolls Royce.

And then there are European Americans. Like you.

Thanks, but few consider the Brits Europeans. They cant figure out what you guys are. Celts with some Roman DNA, mixed with a thousand years of rapes from the Nordics? Sort of like kangaroos trapped on Australia.

Maybe a lost eskimo floated in on a kayak a million years ago and started it all. Bred with the Neandrethrals and mountain sheep.
 

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But we have thousands of years of history Ballvalve. Celebrated by a Royal legacy that stretches back to relatively soon after the birth of Christ.

And America does not. Because pretty soon, each and every one of you reaches a point in your family tree that was not *here*. Because your ancestors for one reason or another just could not cut it at *home*.

Unless you own a casino of course.

So that is why God Save the Queen.
 
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But we have thousands of years of history Ballvalve. Celebrated by a Royal legacy that stretches back to relatively soon after the birth of Christ.

And America does not. Because pretty soon, each and every one of you reaches a point in your family tree that was not *here*. Because your ancestors for one reason or another just could not cut it at *home*.

Unless you own a casino of course.

So that is why God Save the Queen.

Or, more likely, just the opposite. Specifically, we left to work, to advance ourselves and our children, and to pursue opportunities other than The Dole. I suspect that you are here for the same reason. I am happy, with a great family and some degree of success. Perhaps you are homesick.
 

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But we have thousands of years of history Ballvalve. Celebrated by a Royal legacy that stretches back to relatively soon after the birth of Christ.

So does [did] America. They were called Indians, mistakenly of course.

Murdered and raped by a pack of smallpox and syphyllis ridden Italian, French and English morons. Its a dark day, the discovery in 1492. Flags should fly at half mast on Columbus day.

Come sit on my huge flat top boulder above the 300' waterfall. Its filled with generations of grinding holes for acorns from a destroyed idyllic society.

They would have been able to see from here the Grizzly bears feasting on Salmon in the valley below. Now, a Salmon would need a bus to get here.

And perhaps a permit to spawn.

'God save the world with birth control' He can do the Queen next.
 
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