Belled ends are better. You should be able to get sch 40 in belled ends as well.
New shallow well
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Banjo Bud
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Hey valveman, I just got my PK1A delivered. Woohoo. Unfortunately I won’t be working on it until this storm passes. I do have a question though. The kit includes a part called a Snubber. What is this?
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Banjo Bud
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Never mind. I googled it. I understand.
Works fine without the snubber. Just keeps the gauge from flickering.
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I am setting my PK1A up. After the CSV valve, on the way to the house, I need 3 things. Ball valve in case I want to throttle the output, spigot to drain things, and a check valve. In what order should I put these? Do I even need the check valve? I read somewhere that it keeps the pressure off the pump.
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No check valve. The one on the pump is the only check valve needed. After the PK1A tee off to a spigot then a ball valve going to the house.
Banjo Bud
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Ok thanks. So what keeps the pressure off the pump? The CSV?
The check valve on the pump.
Banjo Bud
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Didn’t know it had one.
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Gettin excited. I mounted the pump to the garage floor today and drilled holes in the wall to the crawl space for the suction pipe and pressure side. Trench digging day tomorrow.
Jet pump is gonna need a foot valve. They don't come with like on submersibles.
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Yep. Got it.
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I could be in trouble. I said my spring flows (recovers) at 5 GPM. I measured it just now before proceeding any further with this project, and got 3 GPM. That’s the bad news. The good news is the underground pool holds about 500 gallons. So, what do I do now? Maybe put a dry run switch in? I was going to throttle the pump back so it only put out 5 GPM max, so that the flow in the stream bed after my suction pipe would never really stop. I suppose I could throttle it back to 3 max but I don’t think that would supply the house. If I put a dry run switch in and rely on the 500 gallons underground, and run the pump at 5 GPM, the flow from the spring that goes downstream will completely stop until I’m done using water and it recovers. If I’m only using 2 GPM, the flow down the stream will continue at 1 GPM. If I use 5 GPM, it will take 250 minutes for the pool to run dry. I figured that by taking 5 GPM and subtracting 3 GPM as I take the 5. Plenty, right? Yes, but then it would take 166 minutes for the pool to recover and water to flow downstream again. That’s almost 3 hours of dry stream bed. Of course that is the extreme. If all I did was take a 10 minute shower, I don’t think there’d be a problem. You might say so what? But the neighbors in my area would complain that I’m killing critters. Not sure what to do here. I’d like to keep going and just give it a try, but digging a trench and the plumbing involved is a lot of work just to find out it’s not gonna work. So I’m asking for advice.
A well or spring that makes 3 GPM and has 500 gallon storage will supply several houses. No need in restricting the flow, just the amount of time you use water. Even though the spring only makes 3 GPM you could pump 10 GPM for 50 minutes if needed. Most houses use less than 300 gallons per day, but they may have a peak demand of 5-10 GPM for a few minutes. As long as it will recover in a day it is plenty for a house.
Banjo Bud
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I like that answer, valveman
Do you think I should put a Cycle Sensor in ?
https://cyclestopvalves.com/collections/cycle-sensor-pump-monitors/products/cs1ph1-2hp230v
Do you think I should put a Cycle Sensor in ?
https://cyclestopvalves.com/collections/cycle-sensor-pump-monitors/products/cs1ph1-2hp230v
That is exactly what a Cycle Sensor is made for. It will let you pump 10 GPM if needed, and still protect the pump from running dry.
Banjo Bud
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I like that answer. Actually I could run at 10 GPM for 70 minutes right? Remember it’s putting 3 GPM in while I’m taking 10 out. Ok. Thanks valveman you’ve relieved my mind. Back to diggin. Those sensors are expensive but maybe needed in this case.
Yes. The sensor will pay for itself the first time you forget how long you can or more correctly cannot use water.
Banjo Bud
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That's a problem. When you add primer and glue, the pipe will fit farther into the fittings. If your pipe is not long enough before you add primer and glue, the pipe will not go all of the way. You could get leaks.
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