# Long distance outdoor lighting

Discussion in 'Electrical Forum discussion & Blog' started by Savageriver, Oct 18, 2009.

1. ### SavageriverNew Member

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Good Morning,

I am trying to run an outdoor lighting system from my main panel to the front gate of my property. The total one-way run to a 3-way switch at the gate will be 275 feet so I guess that the total circuit length will be 550 feet plus a few feet to the lights. The load will be approximately 660 watts (5.5 amps?) of outdoor spot lights and be connected to a 15-amp breaker at the main panel. Can I run from the main panel to the LB fitting with 12-2 NM-B and then run from the LB fitting with 10 gauge to a junction box approximately half way to the 3-way switch at the gate? Iâ€™d like to come from the junction box to the 3-way switch at the gate with 12 gauge as I have the appropriate lengths of the different gauges of wire already.

SR

2. ### Billy_BobIn the Trades

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When you run wire long distances, you get "voltage drop". There are many free "calculators" for this on the internet. Search google.com for the words...

voltage drop calculator

Some are easier to use than others. (You would select 1 phase or single phase.)

4. ### jbfan74Electrical Contractor

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You can splice inside the lb, but it must have enough room to handle the connductors.
It will be better to install a weather proof box and make the splices there.

Do you not have enough wire to make a complete run without splicing in the middle?

5. ### Ford2001New Member

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Trying using UF-B 103/ground cable.

6. ### AlectricianDIY Senior Member

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1. Use a jbox instaed of an LB

2. I always suggest against using birect buried cable/wire. Conduit is cheap insurance from damage, Stuff happens.

3. Your voltage drop on 275' of #12 is about 5% or 6 volts. I would use #10 for that distance.

7. ### ThatguyHomeowner

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Incands will last longer at lower voltages.

8. ### Ian GillsSenior Robin Hood Guy

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A lot longer.

9. ### hjModerator & Master PlumberStaff Member

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wire

IF you are going from the panel, to the first switch, to the second switch, and then to the lights, you will need THREE wires, and the distance will only be 275'. If you go from the panel to the "second" three way, and from there back to the first one, and also to the lights, then you need FOUR wires and the distance will be 550'. PLus, either one will also need a ground wire.

10. ### Runs with bisonMember

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I would hope that much light will only be on infrequently. It would be awfully wasteful/hard on the wallet to have it on dusk to dawn (several thousand kwh/year). If it's going to be on dusk to dawn then you might want to consider more efficient lighting solutions.

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