Barbarella
New Member
I want to preface this by saying I am renovating a house in my home town, where I am only in the summer months. I have resorted to DIY because the plumber who roughed in my tub and shower plumbing is almost impossible to get hold of . This is a very small rural community and the practically no plumber competition. Furthermore, I suspect this plumber created the problem I now have. Here's why I say that:
I have a Kohler Memoirs alcove tub (installed by said plumber) and Kohler Memoirs tub spout with diverter (rear threaded type) that requires a 7/16" projection of 1/2" nipple from the finished wall for installation. The tub spout came with a brass nipple, and I assume it was to screw into a roughed -in elbow that sits inside the finished wall. Unfortunately the plumber installed a copper pipe that extended about 7 inches perpendicular to wall.
I have cut off much of this to present state as in photo, but know I will have to cut down further if I plan to use the Kohler spout. I figured all this out after installing tile over the area.
This is so frustrating --I had these fixtures before the plumber did the rough-in. and because I was unable to be there when he did the work, I had left written notes for him as to the fixtures I had, and where they were stored at my house. Despite this, he supplied and used a tub drain assembly of his own, instead of the one I had already bought, so this present situation shouldn't have surprised me.
Now, I'm looking at the prospect of soldering a very short threaded fitting to a very short stub if I want to use the very costly tub spout that I have.
I have cut down the brass nipple that came with the spout, but also have a copper fitting for this purpose. To complicate things further, on doing a dry fit, neither of the fittings seam to screw into the full length of the spout's female receptacle (they go only about half that length, or 7/32"). Since the copper fitting I purchased has same diameter and threads as the brass nipple that came with the spout , either fitting should work. I think I might have enough room to direct my torch flame into the hole in the wall where the stub is.
I have 3 questions:
1) is my assessment and plan to sweat one of these fitting accurate, and even possible without tearing out tile?
2) should I use the copper fitting, or the brass one?
3) just how much torque is required to completely screw a fitting into a tub spout's threaded receptacle?
I have a Kohler Memoirs alcove tub (installed by said plumber) and Kohler Memoirs tub spout with diverter (rear threaded type) that requires a 7/16" projection of 1/2" nipple from the finished wall for installation. The tub spout came with a brass nipple, and I assume it was to screw into a roughed -in elbow that sits inside the finished wall. Unfortunately the plumber installed a copper pipe that extended about 7 inches perpendicular to wall.
I have cut off much of this to present state as in photo, but know I will have to cut down further if I plan to use the Kohler spout. I figured all this out after installing tile over the area.
This is so frustrating --I had these fixtures before the plumber did the rough-in. and because I was unable to be there when he did the work, I had left written notes for him as to the fixtures I had, and where they were stored at my house. Despite this, he supplied and used a tub drain assembly of his own, instead of the one I had already bought, so this present situation shouldn't have surprised me.
Now, I'm looking at the prospect of soldering a very short threaded fitting to a very short stub if I want to use the very costly tub spout that I have.
I have cut down the brass nipple that came with the spout, but also have a copper fitting for this purpose. To complicate things further, on doing a dry fit, neither of the fittings seam to screw into the full length of the spout's female receptacle (they go only about half that length, or 7/32"). Since the copper fitting I purchased has same diameter and threads as the brass nipple that came with the spout , either fitting should work. I think I might have enough room to direct my torch flame into the hole in the wall where the stub is.
I have 3 questions:
1) is my assessment and plan to sweat one of these fitting accurate, and even possible without tearing out tile?
2) should I use the copper fitting, or the brass one?
3) just how much torque is required to completely screw a fitting into a tub spout's threaded receptacle?
