Issues with contractor work, removed 90% of joist.

[Br1Guy]

I just had issues with the contractor because he removed probably 90% of a joist which you can see in the second attached picture. The first attached picture was where the joist butted up to a support joist where the shower used to be. When asking the contractor about removing so much material from the choice he told me it was not a load bearing choice, that it was just a nailer joist. This made absolutely no sense to me. He said because the joist didn't go all the way to the other wall and stopped in the support where the shower was that it wasn't load bearing and just a nailer. I think I might part ways with them, but in the event I am wrong, would this be acceptable? Side note, he was moving a drain over

for the shower farther down. Thanks in advance!

 

[John Gayewski]

I just had issues with the contractor because he removed probably 90% of a joist which you can see in the second attached picture. The first attached picture was where the joist butted up to a support joist where the shower used to be. When asking the contractor about removing so much material from the choice he told me it was not a load bearing choice, that it was just a nailer joist. This made absolutely no sense to me. He said because the joist didn't go all the way to the other wall and stopped in the support where the shower was that it wasn't load bearing and just a nailer. I think I might part ways with them, but in the event I am wrong, would this be acceptable? Side note, he was moving a drain over for the shower farther down. Thanks in advance!

A picture would help. Can't really tell you anything without more context.

 

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[Br1Guy]

A picture would help. Can't really tell you anything without more context.

I added them but they didn't show up. Just posted them again.

 

[John Gayewski]

I see. My answer is on the other post. But since this hit did this your gonna need to fix it. Or he will at least.

Did a plumber do this?

 

[Br1Guy]

I see. My answer is on the other post. But since this hit did this your gonna need to fix it. Or he will at least.

Did a plumber do this?

I don't think I saw your other answer in this post, it seems like it didn't show up. This just happened tonight so nothing has been fixed yet.

 

[John Gayewski]

Did a plumber do this?

For whatever reason you have two identical posts.

 

[Br1Guy]

Did a plumber do this?

For whatever reason you have two identical posts.

Ahh, that makes sense to the other response I had no idea there's two posts. This was a contractor doing plumbing work.

 

[John Gayewski]

Ahh, that makes sense to the other response I had no idea there's two posts. This was a contractor doing plumbing work.

Yeah if anything you'd want a plumber doing contract work, not the other way around. It'll cost you though.

Better to hire a plumber and carpenter who work together.

 

[Reach4]

Any comments on my thought that the shocking big hole in the joist of the first picture predates the new plumbing by years?

 

[Br1Guy]

Yeah if anything you'd want a plumber doing contract work, not the other way around. It'll cost you though.

Better to hire a plumber and carpenter who work together.

Originally I planned on doing the work myself and was going to hire a plumber. This is been years in the waiting so I just got a contractor to handle it all and have this to deal with. My one other question is at the wye in the first picture. The street part is going to the bathtub and the branch is going to go to the vent. Is there issues with that being on its side?

 

[Br1Guy]

Any comments on my thought that the shocking big hole in the joist of the first picture predates the new plumbing by years?

There was a smaller notch at first for the bathtub that was there. He then removed everything else to try to get a different drain in for the new shower going in. This is definitely a joist. There was only a small amount originally taken out for the old drain.

 

[John Gayewski]

Yeah if anything you'd want a plumber doing contract work, not the other way around. It'll cost you though.

Better to hire a plumber and carpenter who work together.

There is some issue with it. In practice flat venting is done all of the time. Technically the vent should be vertical all the way to 42 inches above the floor. Then it can go to horizontal.

If the vent acts as a drain for your lavatory then horizontal thre while way is fine.

 

[Reach4]

There was a smaller notch at first for the bathtub that was there. He then removed everything else to try to get a different drain in for the new shower going in. This is definitely a joist. There was only a small amount originally taken out for the old drain.

You don't buy into the grayish brown color indicating that the shocking big cut is old and therefore pre-existing? We are talking about this picture, right?

 

[John Gayewski]

It does look as if the joist was fully cut prior. He just fit it up a little more.

 

[Br1Guy]

It does look as if the joist was fully cut prior. He just fit it up a little more.

He didn't deny cutting it. Just that it was just a "nailer joist" not a structural one.It is not an additional joist or anything like that.

 

[wwhitney]

You don't buy into the grayish brown color indicating . . .

Since the outside of the PVC looks gray in the photo, I don't know how much you want to draw conclusions based on the apparent color of the wood.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[Br1Guy]

You don't buy into the grayish brown color indicating that the shocking big cut is old and therefore pre-existing? We are talking about this picture, right?

Here is a different picture with the flash on.

 

[Br1Guy]

There is some issue with it. In practice flat venting is done all of the time. Technically the vent should be vertical all the way to 42 inches above the floor. Then it can go to horizontal.

If the vent acts as a drain for your lavatory then horizontal thre while way is fine.

Ok, good to know. Thanks. Also, after the one end goes through the wood, the pipe is supported by a floating 2x4 on the drywall below as well and the p-trap is sitting on the drywall too. If angled correctly, is it ok? Or, should a more permanent support be used?

 

[John Gayewski]

Ok, good to know. Thanks. Also, after the one end goes through the wood, the pipe is supported by a floating 2x4 on the drywall below as well and the p-trap is sitting on the drywall too. If angled correctly, is it ok? Or, should a more permanent support be used?

Probably something better