Is this connector for a range obsolete?

[Edinpdx]

So I bought this 1960's Frigidaire range for $200. It looks to be in great shape- all original parts seem to be there. Super clean with few scratches. My wife would like it to replace the stove under microwave that we have now.

Q: Current range is GAS and measures 36" across- the flair is 40"- so we have to trim out the cabinetry. I have not tested the electrical as I don't have an outlet to match the plug pictured. I'd like to install it, but I need to know if it all works- or works at all. Is there a way to to power up the 230v without the matching outlet?

Thanks for any input/ideas

 

[wwhitney]

That plug is deprecated but still available. Best option I think would be for a qualified person to check the appliance internal wiring, confirm that the neutral wiring everywhere is insulated from the chassis, and properly install a cord with a 4 prong plug.

For testing, you could use a 14-50P to 10-50R adapter, assuming I've correctly identified that plug as 10-50 and not 10-30. Such an adapter should have none of the 10-50R slots connected to the 14-50P EGC pin. And be careful testing, an old appliance could have a variety of dangerous internal faults.

Cheers, Wayne

 

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[Edinpdx]

That plug is deprecated but still available. Best option I think would be for a qualified person to check the appliance internal wiring, confirm that the neutral wiring everywhere is insulated from the chassis, and properly install a cord with a 4 prong plug.

For testing, you could use a 14-50P to 10-50R adapter, assuming I've correctly identified that plug as 10-50 and not 10-30. Such an adapter should have none of the 10-50R slots connected to the 14-50P EGC pin. And be careful testing, an old appliance could have a variety of dangerous internal faults.

Cheers, Wayne

Thanks, Wayne. This plug was mis-ID'd by me. I found the adapter you recommended. I have a nephew that is a Journeyman Electrician I would call to wire the kitchen for the new range- is he the "GUY" that would also be called to check the internal wiring as well? Should I be calling a Frigidaire Service center, or will any appliance repairman be able to do the inspection- I do have the Frigidaire tech's service manual fo a "qualified repairman to refer to."

 

[wwhitney]

is he the "GUY"

I don't know, maybe? You could ask him if he feels qualified to do that. At a minimum open the wiring compartment and after removing any intentional neutral-chassis bond, check for continuity between neutral and chassis. Maybe even megger each conductor to the chassis.

The above comments assume the inside of that thing look anything like the inside of a range built this millennium, I could be off base.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[Jadnashua]

All modern electric stoves today require a four-wire connector: L1, L2, N, G. If your old wiring is only 3-wires (L1, L2, N), they do allow you to wire up to it. IN a new stove, the ground and neutral are not connected together, but with a 3-wire plug, you don't use the G lead, but the bonding must exist. While this is for a GE oven, the concept is identical 31-10556-5 (geappliances.com)

 

[John Gayewski]

This is why I like my standing pilot gas oven. The only wires on it, go to the clock that broke sometime in the nineties.

 

[Jadnashua]

Yeah, I like my gas range, but if I had cheap electric rates, or my own solar cell field, I'd probably go to an inductive cooktop...you get similar, smooth power (heat) range, and the instant heat of a gas burner. And, it's easier to keep clean.

 

[Fitter30]

That plug is deprecated but still available. Best option I think would be for a qualified person to check the appliance internal wiring, confirm that the neutral wiring everywhere is insulated from the chassis, and properly install a cord with a 4 prong plug.

For testing, you could use a 14-50P to 10-50R adapter, assuming I've correctly identified that plug as 10-50 and not 10-30. Such an adapter should have none of the 10-50R slots connected to the 14-50P EGC pin. And be careful testing, an old appliance could have a variety of dangerous internal faults.

Cheers, Wayne

If the wiring and connectors look good the only other problem would be the thermostats. Most would be obsolete containing some type of liquid maybe mercury? Thermostats what ever kind (except electronic) start to work from their born on date.

 

[Norcal01]

That plug is only allowed in existing installation done prior to the 1996 NEC, if new wiring is installed to supply that Frigidaire Flair range, it will have to be a 4-wire supply to comply with current code.

Used to have the same range until got another range & donated the Flair range to the local Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

 

[Jeff H Young]

That plug is only allowed in existing installation done prior to the 1996 NEC, if new wiring is installed to supply that Frigidaire Flair range, it will have to be a 4-wire supply to comply with current code.

Used to have the same range until got another range & donated the Flair range to the local Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

Yea Yea, I donated mine too it was 10 oclock at night in a dark alley hope it went to a good home . I did appliance change outs way back and ran into a few of those and I remember those being somewhat common as a kid not fun to move though

 

[Norcal01]

BTW, General Motors, the then owner of Frigidaire had product placement on the old Bewitched TV series, the Frigidaire Flair range could be seen in the background, + Chevrolet autos. Would love to own a 1st gen Camaro.