How to replace with this with a stop valve

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[Reach4]

Looks to me as if you could cut off the lighter-colored extension at the end of the darker pipe, and use either the push-on or compression on the remainder. HOWEVER if using the SharkBite push-on, you would remove the inside plastic piece that you must keep in place if using PEX with the Sharkbite. If you want info on that, say so.

Do you think the length of the original pipe would be sufficient? Does the OD of the dark colored pipe seem smooth enough?

 

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Looks to me as if you could cut off the lighter-colored extension at the end of the darker pipe, and use either the push-on or compression on the remainder. HOWEVER if using the SharkBite push-on, you would remove the inside plastic piece that you must keep in place if using PEX with the Sharkbite. If you want info on that, say so.

Do you think the length of the original pipe would be sufficient? Does the OD of the dark colored pipe seem smooth enough?

you are talking about the plastic piece on the gaskets end, right? I can remove it and put it back on. If I am not on target then arm me with the info, before I start
Sharkbite stop valve

I dont have to cut the entire "new" piece off. I can cut it just enough of the "new" copper pipe and have the valve land on the old pipe and have the fit. I dont think I have enough of the old piece if the entire "new" piece is cut off.

Sounds like a good idea.

Reach4, wonderful ideas so far. Totally resonate with me and hopefully I have been worthy of being guided. Thanks for all the inputs.

 

[Reach4]

It would be a part that goes inside the pipe normally.

From https://www.sharkbite.com/us/en/resources/faq/push-to-connect-fittings-faq

The tube liner in SharkBite (1st Generation) fittings can easily be removed by pulling it past the o-ring, with the aid of the SharkBite Disconnect Clip or Disconnect Tongs (both sold separately). The tube support liner can drop out of the fittings as it can move freely past the grab ring. Needle nose pliers may be used to pull the tube support liner out. The SharkBite (1st Generation) tube liner is necessary for use with PEX, HDPE or PE-RT Pipe. It is not required for copper or CPVC, however, it is not necessary to remove the tube liner from the fitting.

Because of its new design, SharkBite Max fittings don’t require a PEX tube liner, making installations simpler especially when working on copper and CPVC.

See page 5 and 6 of https://www.homedepot.com/hdus/en_U...ng/SharkBite/Docs/SB_Install_Brochure_THD.pdf

The Sharkbite Max does not have that insert/liner.

 

[GReynolds929]

The 1/2 pipe has been extended with a small extension. The ID of the extension is 0.49 inches but the OD is o.56 inches, substantially less than 0.61/0.62 for the original pipe.

It's not an extension, it's the original copper pipe. The compression nut was significantly over tightened and deformed the pipe. When the ferrule was pulled off it deformed the rest of the pipe. Cut off enough to allow a new compression ferrule to fit on the original pipe and install a new compression stop.

 

[Reach4]

It's not an extension, it's the original copper pipe. The compression nut was significantly over tightened and deformed the pipe. When the ferrule was pulled off it deformed the rest of the pipe. Cut off enough to allow a new compression ferrule to fit on the original pipe and install a new compression stop.

I see that now. I assume that that degree of compression is unusual. Given that, pulling the insert (tube liner) from a SharkBite valve would be unnecessary.

Since that old nut had the same thread that that ferrule puller expected, reusing the old nut and ferrule, with a new compression valve, would have probably worked.

 

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Cut about 1/2 inch of the thin pipe and new one went in easily. All valves replaced in the house. My insurance was cribbing about old valves and a slight build up on some of them.

The old monstrosity in the kitchen (valve, cu tubing, RO outlet, cu tubing, faucet hose) has been replaced with this joiner.

Thanks for all the hand holding and guidance.