Grohe shower volume valves & levers

Discussion in 'Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog' started by sharding, May 28, 2008.

  1. sharding

    sharding New Member

    May 26, 2008
    Seattle/Eastside, WA, USA
    (I posted about this on one other board too -- sorry if you see this twice!)

    I think we have a problem with the Grohe shower controls we're having installed in our master bathroom. We have Grohe volume control valves with Kensignton volume control trim, using levers. It seems (I'm being told by the installer -- I haven't played with it yet myself) that the weight of the lever is actually enough to cause the position to slowly change on its own. I know the levers are heavy, but that just doesn't seem right to me. Is ours installed wrong (it doesn't seem that complicated), or faulty, or what? This isn't cheap stuff, so I didn't expect to run into this kind of problem....

  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

    Aug 31, 2004
    Cave Creek, Arizona

    They should be ceramic quarter turn valve so they NEVER change positions. If they were rubber washer compression stems then the handle positions would constantly change as the washer wore down.
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  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

    Sep 2, 2004
    Retired Systems engineer for defense industry.
    New England
    When the valve is well greased, it has a very smooth velvety action. The handles would have to be quite heavy to allow them to move under gravity. I would hope that Grohe did not produce a handle heavy enough to cause that to happen. Now, make sure that the trim you have is specified for the rough-in valve you've selected. The fact that it fits, may not be a good predictor of success - only use the approved trims with the suggested rough-ins, regardless of fit. All of the Grohe fixtures I have, stay where they are put, but I do not have one like you indicated.
  5. Peanut9199

    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

    Apr 23, 2007
    Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale
    Ontario, Canada
    I've had this problem with Jado volume control (quarter turn) and Grohe Eurodisc Pressure balanced shower valve.
    Inside the sleeve there is a washer and gasket, if it is slipping call Grohe and tell them to send you out more gaskets and install them in the sleeve that will increase the friction.
    This is what we did on our Jado problem.
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