Sharky-PI
New Member
Hi folks,
I got an EcoSmart Eco11 for various reasons but it didn't occur to me that it (seemingly) wouldn't have the power to run a hot bath (in my defense, EcoSmart don't really warn you about this anywhere). The unit's great otherwise, no limescale nightmares etc like I've seen on this forum, but the lack of bath option is getting me down. Specifically, the missus reminding me about it is getting me down
[FWIW we're in San Francisco, mains water temp is apparently ~62F (average? I guess it's colder in winter?)]
I figure I have three options but I'd be grateful of any tips (including whether I have other options!):
Cheers!!
I got an EcoSmart Eco11 for various reasons but it didn't occur to me that it (seemingly) wouldn't have the power to run a hot bath (in my defense, EcoSmart don't really warn you about this anywhere). The unit's great otherwise, no limescale nightmares etc like I've seen on this forum, but the lack of bath option is getting me down. Specifically, the missus reminding me about it is getting me down
[FWIW we're in San Francisco, mains water temp is apparently ~62F (average? I guess it's colder in winter?)]
I figure I have three options but I'd be grateful of any tips (including whether I have other options!):
- Tweak settings (text copied from an email to ecosmart that went unanswered):
When initially set up, with the both inlet & outlet flow taps fully open, the shower (~1.5GPM) reaches appropriate temperatures, but the bath faucet doesn't. Conceptually the Eco11 doesn't have enough power to deliver 'full heat' (112F for a bath?) at whatever GPM the faucet delivers (lets say 8), and thus the fully open faucet is powered by the mains water pressure pushing more cold water through the heater than it can heat, such that the water is only lukewarm at 8GPM, but hot at 1.5. To try to address this, I gradually closed the outlet flow valve to limit the water mixing, which worked to an extent, but means the flow rate at the bath is so low that the water has cooled before the bath is full. We have the heater thermostat set at 114F, so conceptually I could bump this up to max (140F?) if that means it'll draw more electrical power and thus heat at a faster rate. If so I could then open the outlet flow value until the water coming out the tub faucet stops being full-temp and starts being mixed with cool (and then dialling it back so it's not mixed with cool!).
Would it make more sense to leave the thermostat at 114F and run the tub faucet for a while so that the heater is working at full heat for that flow rate, then try again to tweak the outlet flow value to see if it can be opened more while still providing 114F? - Upgrade:
Eco11 delivers up to 3.1gpm depending on water temp. Based on my location on the map, I suspect it's more like 1.9gpm. This is fine for showering, though even then the water isn't quite hot enough for the wife in winter. So let's say I need... 8? gpm, for a bath? I guess it's variable but too slow a fill means you're starting to lose heat to radiative cooling as fast as you're adding warm water. Their larger units likely deliver 4gpm for the Eco27 and 5.4gpm for the Eco36. So feasibly I could swap out with one of those?
- Additional Unit:
Per #2, but since I already have a ~1.9gpm unit installed & paid for, that works fine for everything except the occasional bath, it seems silly to throw it out. Talk on this forum seems to suggest >1 unit can be installed simultaneously? If so, would it make more sense to install another unit, rather than removing the current one? This also means my max combined gpm goes from 5.4 (Eco36) to 7.3 (Eco36 + Eco11)
- In-bath water temp raiser:
Does such a thing exist? Whereby I'd run a bath with my existing 1.9gpm unit, taking forever to fill up (22 mins if my calcs are right), but have a plug-in free floating heater? I suspect anything that runs on single-mains-outlet power would be pretty weedy? EcoSmart's most powerful 120w option would deliver 0.5gpm so if that's a reasonable expectation then that's 26% more power, which might drop fill time down to 16 mins, but I don't know if these exist in the first place.
Exothermic chemicals???
Cheers!!