Delta Single Handle Shower Faucet Repair

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  1. ngs428

    ngs428 New Member

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    I have a Delta single handle shower faucet that was probably installed in the 1980's by the previous homeowner. I have a slight drip at the shower head and am looking to replace the ball and seats in the valve.

    I purchased a Delta 212 ball and a Delta RP3614 repair kit.

    The seats in my install look like there isn't a spring behind them. They seem like they are a solid rubber piece. Is this possible? See inner picture below.

    Also, the existing ball has 1 hole on the bottom and 3 on the top. The new ball 212 has 3 holes on top and 3 on bottom. I can't seem to find a replacement ball with only the 4 holes. Does anyone know a part number?

    Outer Pic:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/b592welznbd962p/2017-10-14 08.23.38.jpg?dl=0

    Existing Ball:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/w70f0em9xi8o6ue/2017-10-14 07.54.13.jpg?dl=0

    Inner Picture:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7tknn4unqwac30/2017-10-14 07.51.55.jpg?dl=0
     
  2. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You will have springs behind the rubber seals.
    NOTE: RP54870 includes lever handle, set screw, wrench, escutcheon, bonnet, cam/lip seal and seats & springs.

     
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  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Terry, are you trying to confuse him by showing a "conversion ball" which has nothing to do with his question?
     
  5. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    Maybe........No. Maybe. Delta didn't have any information on their website except that. I guess the old stuff is too old for them
     
  6. ngs428

    ngs428 New Member

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    Thanks for the feedback.

    My ball has 3 holes on the top and 1 hole in the bottom. The one included in RP54870 does not seem to have that. Must be due to the conversion to the lever handle?

    The ball I have seems to be OK, I am assuming the seats are the issue. Could I not use the springs and seats (RP4993) that I have in RP3614 I bought, use the old ball, and the new cam assembly I bought with RP3614?

    I can't seem to find the part number for the ball I have.
     
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  7. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    The springs/gasket will probably work with the old ball. Come Monday, call Delta's tech support.
     
  8. ngs428

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    I have been in touch with them via email over the last couple days. Just sent them some pictures today. We will see what they say.

    I would just do the RP54870 kit but it states that it is for replacing a 212 ball, which I don’t have. I would have thought that I would have had a 212... not sure what I have there...
     
  9. ngs428

    ngs428 New Member

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    It looks like the RP1181 is the correct spring from the pictures I saw on the internet and Deta’s advice. I should be able to couple them with the old ball (which is solid by the way, other than the 4 holes) and the RP3614 cam.

    I was not aware of this older spring type, but this does make more sense now.
     
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