Conditioner not a softner

[Jsmallberries]

I would prefer a whole house conditioner, leaving the hard water,but reducing or greatly eliminating scale. And maybe adding a point of use filter under the kitchen sink. any recommendations

 

[David Isom]

Hi, we have been doing this for around 7 years and in practice it has been very good overall. We have reduced calcium build up in our system by around 80/90%. This has been achieved by dosing our water with a powder that is food grade and just 3ozs is enough to treat 7000 gallons. We then use commercial grade coffee filters at our drinking water taps and one of these treats around 1500 gallons. We are in Europe so I would guess you need to find alternative manufactures . I have attached photos of what we use

 

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[ditttohead]

If you want true consistent scale reduction then a softener is your best choice. Water conditioners tend to be very hit and miss. We manufacture dozens of different technologies, none come close to the capabilities of a traditional softener. The vast majority of people who work in this industry use true softeners at their own house even though they market and promote salt free technologies. Be very wary of claims that the technology is proven in Germany, or has "certified" claims of 98% scale reduction. Most of these claims are not exactly true.

 

[David Isom]

If you want true consistent scale reduction then a softener is your best choice. Water conditioners tend to be very hit and miss. We manufacture dozens of different technologies, none come close to the capabilities of a traditional softener. The vast majority of people who work in this industry use true softeners at their own house even though they market and promote salt free technologies. Be very wary of claims that the technology is proven in Germany, or has "certified" claims of 98% scale reduction. Most of these claims are not exactly true.

I can honestly say that the polyphosphate powder really really does inhibit scale formation considerably. Out water is around 18/20 gpm and we were sceptical. It does nothing however to reduce the hardness just dramatically reduces scale from forming .

It does not require much effort or cost to install so if someone really does not want soft water just to reduce scale it well worth considering as a first move . The only other caveat is that we are on city water and therefore don’t have any other nasties to worry about.

David

 

[ditttohead]

Polyphosphate is semi effective but how is it controlled? In general, the traditional filtration methods tend to massively overdose when the water has been sitting in the filter system overnight, and then completely underdose when water is flowing at higher rates. A properly designed metered injection system is the most common way of getting a proper and consistent dosing. We use this system design extensively on larger buildings where softening is not practical or cost effective. Apartment complexes and many commercial applications use polyphosphate injection instead of softening. https://view.publitas.com/impact-water-products/2018-catalog-final/page/142-143

 

[David Isom]

Polyphosphate is semi effective but how is it controlled? In general, the traditional filtration methods tend to massively overdose when the water has been sitting in the filter system overnight, and then completely underdose when water is flowing at higher rates. A properly designed metered injection system is the most common way of getting a proper and consistent dosing. We use this system design extensively on larger buildings where softening is not practical or cost effective. Apartment complexes and many commercial applications use polyphosphate injection instead of softening. https://view.publitas.com/impact-water-products/2018-catalog-final/page/142-143

I am not a water expert. However I am a real user that has a good technical background . I only offer my personal experience after using for seven plus years . As I have already said it has proven to be extremely effective in our situation at reducing scale formation. We are lucky in that we can now afford to purchase a softener which has many more benefits and are looking forward to them. David

 

[Jsmallberries]

Thanks for the replies, hey Ditto, what's a good mid range softener for single family residence, west central Florida, municipal water supply.

And what can be used point of use under the kitchen sink to reduce or remove the sodium

 

[David Isom]

Thanks for the replies, hey Ditto, what's a good mid range softener for single family residence, west central Florida, municipal water supply.

And what can be used point of use under the kitchen sink to reduce or remove the sodium

Thanks for the replies, hey Ditto, what's a good mid range softener for single family residence, west central Florida, municipal water supply.

And what can be used point of use under the kitchen sink to reduce or remove the sodium

Hi, so have you decided to go for a softener and not a scale inhibitor ? My understanding is if your water is not exceptionally hard and containing a high sodium content to start with that it’s fine for drinking. It you do want to filter out sodium you’ll need a reverse osmosis system under sink.

david