We are looking for a traditional toilet for a powder room remodel in our 20's era home. After a long learning curve, mostly with info from this site and one other, we have decided to steer clear of Kohler and go with a Toto. We have narrowed it down to the Clayton or the Dartmouth, or possibly the Guinevere (mostly out of our price, though). I have a few questions, any input appreciated...
1. On Terry's ratings, the Dartmouth is said to be a traditional twin to the Drake in performance, both rated at 900 grams, while the Clayton is rated at 675 grams. All three are G-Max toilets. Wondering what about the Clayton lowers it's rating?
2. Trying to decide on G-Max version (tried and true) and eco E-Max version (more water savings, but newer design with less established history). I know this has been discussed, but I'm still confused on which one to go with. I read somewhere the E-Max can be converted between 1.6 and 1.28?
3. Have read about some installation problems specific to the Clayton, involving difficulty attaching the tank to the bowl. Some have had problems seating them properly with reports of cracked bowls and tanks. Anyone have experience with this?
4. Clayton tank has an interesting forward bulge which bumps against the seat back when it is up. Anyone know if this has been a problem with knocking the seat back into the bowl?
5. Neither comes in CEFIONTECT. Should I seek out a different choice or just not worry about it? We've thought about upgrading to the Guinevere (CEFIONTECT, Double Cyclone, seat included) but it would be a stretch price-wise. Is it worth the upgrade?
Thanks for any input anyone can provide!
Wayne
1. On Terry's ratings, the Dartmouth is said to be a traditional twin to the Drake in performance, both rated at 900 grams, while the Clayton is rated at 675 grams. All three are G-Max toilets. Wondering what about the Clayton lowers it's rating?
2. Trying to decide on G-Max version (tried and true) and eco E-Max version (more water savings, but newer design with less established history). I know this has been discussed, but I'm still confused on which one to go with. I read somewhere the E-Max can be converted between 1.6 and 1.28?
3. Have read about some installation problems specific to the Clayton, involving difficulty attaching the tank to the bowl. Some have had problems seating them properly with reports of cracked bowls and tanks. Anyone have experience with this?
4. Clayton tank has an interesting forward bulge which bumps against the seat back when it is up. Anyone know if this has been a problem with knocking the seat back into the bowl?
5. Neither comes in CEFIONTECT. Should I seek out a different choice or just not worry about it? We've thought about upgrading to the Guinevere (CEFIONTECT, Double Cyclone, seat included) but it would be a stretch price-wise. Is it worth the upgrade?
Thanks for any input anyone can provide!
Wayne
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