Cannot remove a kitchen faucet: the under-counter nut is inside a can

[morzh]

Hi!
I am in a quandary: my old faucet wend bad and I cannot seem to remove it.
I bought a standard one-hole faucet with 1-1/2" stem.
Now when trying to remove the old faucet I found that underneath the counter instead of a wide nut there is a metal can that the hot/cold pipes and the pull-out hose go through. The pull-out hose goes through a long threaded metal pipe and then a nut goes over it. This pipe is about 1/2" in diameter and it seems that this what holds the can (and the faucet) against the counter.
The can kinda looks like the one in here. Except as I said, the nut goes over the hose, not net to it.
https://www.grainger.com/product/SUPERIOR-TOOL-Universal-Faucet-Wrench-with-45W754
So I pulled out the hose but there is no tool that would fit the nut and is long enough to go over the threaded pipe through which the hose was going and reach the nut. The can is too deep and narrow for me to reach the nut with pliers.
So, first I thought of simply trying to break off the part of the faucet that is over the counter, but then it occured to me that the hole through the counter might not be 1-1/2" but might be the same 1/2" for that metal pipe to fit through, and then I would be stuck with the old faucet broken and the new not fitting through, and without water supply in the kitchen.
Any advice? Really could use some help here.
Best
Mike.

 

[Terry]

How about a picture 800 pixels or less.
Without seeing what you have, sometimes I drill out the nut if I can't get a wrench on it.
There is a faucet from Costco that removes from the top, so until I see what you have, I'm still guessing. If you have a kitchen sink, the holes will be standard. I don't know of any faucets that use non-standard holes.

This Moen faucet uses their own tool for the nut. Sort of a deep socket.

 

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[Reach4]

What are you calling a can?

You might post a photo of the nut you are trying to access.

 

[morzh]

Terry!

this is EXACTLY what I have! You do not need the photo - this is it.
Have to tell you (I had Moens before and loved them) - this is a crappy Moen, if this is what I have. Cheap plastic.
So, next question is: if I were to, well, manhandle that thin and break away the top and then maybe it would fall down (if it is even possible), what kind of hole does it use? Would my 1-1/2" new faucet fit through it?

How about a picture 800 pixels or less.
Without seeing what you have, sometimes I drill out the nut if I can't get a wrench on it.
There is a faucet from Costco that removes from the top, so until I see what you have, I'm still guessing. If you have a kitchen sink, the holes will be standard. I don't know of any faucets that use non-standard holes.

This Moen faucet uses their own tool for the nut. Sort of a deep socket.

 

[morzh]

Reach4,

Terry just posted what I have. Looks exactly the same. Since the photo is taken axial to the outer cylinder (what I called the can) I cannot tell if it is as deep as mine, might be the same.

 

[Terry]

I'm sure the hole in the counter will work.
I sometimes put on eye protection and using a drill bit, take a part of the nut out. Then I can drop it off the threads.

 

[morzh]

I'm sure the hole in the counter will work.
I sometimes put on eye protection and using a drill bit, take a part of the nut out. Then I can drop it off the threads.

Terry

So what is under that can? What centers it all to the hole? The threaded tube is narrow.

 

[morzh]

OK< here's a Moen I found.
https://www.moen.com/shared/docs/product-specifications/87017sp.pdf

If you look at it, it seems that the hole is sized for the threaded tube, it's not the 1-1/2" . This document is not very good but it is from Moen website.
If this is what I think it won't work for a standard faucet.
It says designed for 1-1/2" holes, but the picture shows something different. Or I misinterpret it.

 

[Smooky]

There are 3 water pipes and the hollow bolt in the 1.5 inch hole. All of that helps to center the faucet over the hole. The base of the faucet is probably 2 inches.

 

[morzh]

Thanks guys, you put my mind to rest.
A friend might have the tool; if not it is $10 online.
Best

Mike