Bathtub Spout Broke off & Need Help Please...

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Ok Gents, I'm going to be frank with you all. I have no idea what to call anything regarding plumbing or parts, so I have pictures just Incase.

My bathtub broke when I pushed the water diverter (I think). The pipe that sticks out from the wall to the faucet is hard plastic and it's screwed into the 90° joint that is metal and the other end screws into the faucet. Both ends have this white thin tape. This faucet has been there since 2011 with no problems. I tried to remove the small broken plastic piece on the wall, but I can't. I've used the tools, 1. Husky Nipple Extractor Set, 2. T- handle Faucet Wrench, 3. Husky Internal Pipe Wrench Set, 4. Husky Shower Valve Socket Wrench and none worked. The plastic broken piece is to hard and locked into place and won't budge at all. I'm at a loss and don't know what to do. Please help. Thank you for your time reading this and responding if at all possible.

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First off, a steel, galvanized metal nipple (the short pipe from the fitting in the wall to the tub spout) should never be used as it rusts as you found out. They use them because they're cheaper, but they don't last forever. Brass should last beyond your lifetime.

The fitting at the wall (the drop ear el) has the remains of the steel fitting stuck in it. There are a couple of ways to try to remove that so you can thread in a new piece:
- if there's an edge, you might be able to use something like a metal chisel to catch the edge and rotate out the bit stuck in there - it would need to turn CCW
- if there's nothing to catch an edge on, you can try an inside pipe wrench https://www.amazon.com/Superior-Tools-2-Inch-Internal-Wrench/dp/B000AO1IOI there are other types, and places you can find them

Once you have that out, you'll need a new spout and probably a new nipple...get a brass nipple. You will need to measure the distance from the face of the finished wall and the specs of the spout you choose the right length nipple to ensure you can tighten the new spout do it points down, and gets tight and is tight to the wall.

If you can solder, you could solder a male threaded fitting to a short piece of pipe and use a slip-on spout. It seals with O-rings, and gets locked in place with a setscrew. That can be easier to use as the nipple length then doesn't need to be what may be a weird size you can't find. On that, you won't know until you measure, though.
 

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Call a professional as the solder joint looks like lead by the discoloration

When galvanized is mixed with non ferrous metals such as brass or copper it causes electrolytic action and galvanic corrosion

Best bet is to have the tee removed and replaced with lead free solder

The previous person should have protected the wood in the back to prevent a fire possibly starting
 

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First off, a steel, galvanized metal nipple (the short pipe from the fitting in the wall to the tub spout) should never be used as it rusts as you found out. They use them because they're cheaper, but they don't last forever. Brass should last beyond your lifetime.

The fitting at the wall (the drop ear el) has the remains of the steel fitting stuck in it. There are a couple of ways to try to remove that so you can thread in a new piece:
- if there's an edge, you might be able to use something like a metal chisel to catch the edge and rotate out the bit stuck in there - it would need to turn CCW
- if there's nothing to catch an edge on, you can try an inside pipe wrench https://www.amazon.com/Superior-Tools-2-Inch-Internal-Wrench/dp/B000AO1IOI there are other types, and places you can find them

Once you have that out, you'll need a new spout and probably a new nipple...get a brass nipple. You will need to measure the distance from the face of the finished wall and the specs of the spout you choose the right length nipple to ensure you can tighten the new spout do it points down, and gets tight and is tight to the wall.

If you can solder, you could solder a male threaded fitting to a short piece of pipe and use a slip-on spout. It seals with O-rings, and gets locked in place with a setscrew. That can be easier to use as the nipple length then doesn't need to be what may be a weird size you can't find. On that, you won't know until you measure, though.
Than you very much for your expertise. I really do appreciate that you took the time to read my post and decided to respond. Again, thank you Jadnashua.

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Call a professional as the solder joint looks like lead by the discoloration

When galvanized is mixed with non ferrous metals such as brass or copper it causes electrolytic action and galvanic corrosion

Best bet is to have the tee removed and replaced with lead free solder

The previous person should have protected the wood in the back to prevent a fire possibly starting
Sylvan,
Than you for you time reading my post and responding. I'm a firm believer that (TIME ⌚) is one of our most valuable commodities, along with our word.

So, I appreciate you devoting some of your time in helping me. I hope you have a great day Sylvan.

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Is that plastic inside the threads of the drop ear?
I would remove the rest of the nipple (plastic) there, and use a new brass nipple and new tub spout.
An easy-out might help to remove that.

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Is that plastic inside the threads of the drop ear?
I would remove the rest of the nipple (plastic) there, and use a new brass nipple and new tub spout.
An easy-out might help to remove that.

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If someone does not have an extractor (EZ out) they can use the back of a file

A lot of times when a shower arm threads break off the EZ out will not work because it hits the back or the drop ear ellso the file works wonders in these conditions
 

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If that is plastic you should be able to cut it into strips with a small blade such is found on a coping saw. Once the plastic nipple is cut into strips you should be able to peel them out with a tiny screw driver being careful not to damage the brass threads.

Other than that I've used the appropriate sized ridgid brand nipple extractor. Those will pound onto the pipe and not expand it. The problem with an easy out at times is it can expand what your trying to extract and make it tougher it retrieve.
 
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