Electricview
New Member
New here seeking some advice about stopping wobble.
recently did our own tile job on a tiny 5x5 bathroom and obviously we didn't do good. The tile is un-even around the toilet (mostly low in the back, but a little high on one side too). Anyways long story short when i put just the bowl down on the johnny bolts (no nuts yet), if i lean on the tip of the bowl, the back comes up about 1/4th of an inch (give or take a 16th of an inch). So i jammed 2 of the small clear thicker plastic shims from HD in there on each side of the back. that seems to solve the the front leaning forward problem (and i think better levels the toilet though its not absolutely perfect, but the bubble is between the lines) But when i put my hands on the left and right of the bowl i can get more wobble. Becuase those back tiles are lower, i need 2-3 more wedges on each side, for those i use mostly the composite ones I found at HD in the doors area, but i also use a clear one when the gap gets wider (closer to the tile near it which is atiny bit high, yeah itsa BAD job we did know but we really do not want to tear it out and start over).
So my main question is, that even with all those shims its much better, but if i push hard enough i can still get the bowl to tilt up on a side, tho it takes alot more pushing so i'm guessing i'm just forcing it too much? If i sit on it and just wobble around, that doesnt happen, but i do the feel the slightest bit of movement, like if i had to guess it would be a 32nd of an inch if even that.. so this is all without ANY nuts on the johnny bolts. would putting those on this point to check for wobble help? Or do i need to stop absolutely ANY movement before those nuts are screwed down to the toilet?
Another problem is that since the tile is installed bad its not straight in the back, so when the shims slide under, only half the shim (if even that) makes contact against the toilet edge unless i slant the shim which seems to help, but i'm guessing will be a nightmare to cut and break off...?
and no i haven't put any wax ring in there yet, Going to use a double thicker one with the black funnel cuz i'm afriad with the 1/4th lift in the back i'll have too much of a gap between the flange and toilet cuz the flange is almost DEAD flat even with the tile (not above or below really).
I did purchase a sani-seal and fluidmaster waxless ring, which i have neither used either, but after getting home and reading about them on here, and leaning towards a wax ring as there's horror stories from both those..
Anyways Thanks for any advice you can give!
recently did our own tile job on a tiny 5x5 bathroom and obviously we didn't do good. The tile is un-even around the toilet (mostly low in the back, but a little high on one side too). Anyways long story short when i put just the bowl down on the johnny bolts (no nuts yet), if i lean on the tip of the bowl, the back comes up about 1/4th of an inch (give or take a 16th of an inch). So i jammed 2 of the small clear thicker plastic shims from HD in there on each side of the back. that seems to solve the the front leaning forward problem (and i think better levels the toilet though its not absolutely perfect, but the bubble is between the lines) But when i put my hands on the left and right of the bowl i can get more wobble. Becuase those back tiles are lower, i need 2-3 more wedges on each side, for those i use mostly the composite ones I found at HD in the doors area, but i also use a clear one when the gap gets wider (closer to the tile near it which is atiny bit high, yeah itsa BAD job we did know but we really do not want to tear it out and start over).
So my main question is, that even with all those shims its much better, but if i push hard enough i can still get the bowl to tilt up on a side, tho it takes alot more pushing so i'm guessing i'm just forcing it too much? If i sit on it and just wobble around, that doesnt happen, but i do the feel the slightest bit of movement, like if i had to guess it would be a 32nd of an inch if even that.. so this is all without ANY nuts on the johnny bolts. would putting those on this point to check for wobble help? Or do i need to stop absolutely ANY movement before those nuts are screwed down to the toilet?
Another problem is that since the tile is installed bad its not straight in the back, so when the shims slide under, only half the shim (if even that) makes contact against the toilet edge unless i slant the shim which seems to help, but i'm guessing will be a nightmare to cut and break off...?
and no i haven't put any wax ring in there yet, Going to use a double thicker one with the black funnel cuz i'm afriad with the 1/4th lift in the back i'll have too much of a gap between the flange and toilet cuz the flange is almost DEAD flat even with the tile (not above or below really).
I did purchase a sani-seal and fluidmaster waxless ring, which i have neither used either, but after getting home and reading about them on here, and leaning towards a wax ring as there's horror stories from both those..
Anyways Thanks for any advice you can give!