1965 Eljer Toilet free & clean

Does any want 3 gallon toilets anymore?

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  • Yes , and I'm not on a sewer is why.

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Brawndo Plumbor

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Please forgive me if I am posting in the wrong location.

I recognize that the forums are not here for CLing items but since this is specifically a unique toilet I thought I would post here. This is a bit of an odd toilet that I don't have a place to use yet so if possible would like to find someone that would use it. I am not sure anyone wants a 3 gallon toilet. I believe I have the replacement parts for it too as I planned to use it.


This toilet is well made and of a design that employs the bottom of the tank as the seal and a different valve that seats on the tank has a very different design than a normal flapper. Not a common design. Perhaps similar to other 1960's AM std designed stopper but more custom in design still.

The toilet is well made, probably 3 gallons and is clean. It is white in color and has no chips that I have noticed. I have the tank lid too. The base is rather rectangular or pedestal like in design compared to today's toilets. I would like to give it away, and probably only a plumber who understands the uniqueness of this Eljer might be interested. I will follow the thread to see if anyone is interested in this museum piece.


The base resembles these toilets in the links below but I could not tell you what the name is truly unless its stamped on it somewhere and they look similar but I don't believe they are the same exact thing.


https://www.plumbingsupply.com/eljertoiletparts-orlando.html

the tank and base looks to me like the orlando on the left to me : however the parts diagram doesn't show how the tank the stopper type of valve worked in there.

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/eljertoiletparts-hylando.html

The hylando has a similar base too. This image shows a stopper design related to Eljer but as I recall quite clearly this particular Eljer has nothing other than the tank alone with its ceramic tooled outflow that was baked in a kiln into the tank. There is no part that bolts to the outflow as I recall. It is possible I am wrong but my brother rebuilt one of these exact models when it broke on him back in the 80's and he was amazed to find this was how it was constructed. The photo below doesn't show this feature correctly I think.

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A 1965 toilet uses five or more gallons.
And they didn't even work that well. In the Seattle area we have people moving in by the thousands. How are we going to keep up with our water that is supplied by a Winter snowpack I don't know. We've been pulling old toilets like that for years and removing them from service.
 

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A 1965 toilet uses five or more gallons.
And they didn't even work that well. In the Seattle area we have people moving in by the thousands. How are we going to keep up with our water that is supplied by a Winter snowpack I don't know. We've been pulling old toilets like that for years and removing them from service.

Thanks Terry it will become a dump run but would be a fun target in the back forty too. Whats really funny is the similar threads below. "Should I replace an old Eljer" etc. I guess I should have searched further. It funny what people will list or want on CL. I have a Kenmore oil stove my father took to Greece after WWII and back that off the grid people would kill for but I guess an Eljer toilet doesn't have that demand.


The reality is King County is extremely expensive to build more housing as you are asking where we will fit everyone and let alone come up with the water. There are many reasons for this but the density housing plan the local socialists pulled off here in the 90's killed any reason to build here as a young man unless you own a very profitable business. Paying an additional $80 for every license tab in Seattle gives them more to spend on anything they want. To build a new house or multi unit structure in Seattle you will pay an additional hookup fee for sewage. I don't recall how high it is now. But I recall its higher than the $5000 they started out with that is passed on to the buyer or resident of the new housing.






To develop existing land is very expensive for a number of reasons here. The reality is to build anywhere in this state you have to have water. In Seattle they charge you for your sewer use based on your water usage. So if you water your roses they think they should charge you for using the sewer, what a grand idea yes?

Former King County Exec Ron Sims had a land management act he got the voters to pass in the 90's that made it very expensive to build housing here. This land management act was a shrewd and horrid idea sold to the public as stop the mini mall expansion that California has and hug a tree. This was the dumbest thing anyone could voted yes on right up there with a Seattle Head Tax. Who can live here now or afford to live here now or retire and live here now? Mostly former Microsoft employees but yes current Google, Amazon and Microsoft employees. Certainly not me. I find I would have to charge 50 dollars an hour for anything period to even bother living anywhere near here. That is a minimum. And if I work for those people its going to be 5 times that or more.

This land management act was designed pure and simple to force density housing in Seattle for the simple reason to raise the value of the land and in the process our taxes and the taxation.



There was run on platted land anywhere in the 90's in WA State. After that free and happy idea of treehugging and owl saving the landowners got a lot of new wetlands, and inability to build in King county on un platted land. One would have to be rich like you to build a single home in King county on unplatted land. They changed the rules on lot size to the point one would have to buy 100 acres to build a house in the sticks. What young man can afford 100 acres of timber land or a parcel similar to that that works in construction? No have to be a software engineer or won the lotto.


I thought 5 gals too looking at it. But thanks for determining best end for it.

I have two Colombian manufactured Mancesa toilets I hate that are 3 gallons in the house. They must have come in during a "shipment" in the 80's early 90's. I don't like the design particularly the "side wash" or whatever you call the entry points under the rim somehow when I have compared them to others.


A third one is a weird 90's BRIGGS toilet I picked up that has the biggest water patch I have ever seen. Kinda between low flow and 3 gallon the way it looks. I replaced a St Thomas Palermo with it which was not bad but could not handle my father in law a tough little little guy who had lived in caves eating wild yams during the Japanese invasion. Not sure it really won any better than the Palermo but the wife had a difficult time with the St Thomas, so I had to try another. The Palermo had replaced a small 1.6 Crane that was early horrid low flow.

That particular bathroom had been a porch and was cut into the cast iron stack by some idiots with Fernco seals. So there could be some other issues as they were house flippers not plumbers. I would literally want to hit the guy that worked on this house if I met him but lucky for him he moved back to Boston. I found so many things wrong. I Noticed a post earlier about floor problem around a toilet. These guys installed rippers on top of the porch floor and the only place they got them un even and wrong was around the toilet area. I have a lot of plastic shims under that BRIGGS.

I did like the Palermo in place and plan to install it in place of one of the Mancesa's. Definitely taller with the ADA almost too tall for Uncle.
There was a time when Seattle ground up toilets for road comp but they decided against it. Seems like it would create ceramic shards rather than gravel. Reminds me of a friends story as a child in Texas where they often got off the bus and fought as boys. The material they used there was somewhat ground up oyster shells.
 
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