1920's shower mixer - American Standard Re Nu ? B201 or B202

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  1. dersh16

    dersh16 New Member

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    Ihave this same mixer and need washers for replacement. Also when it goes back how are the plungers to be positioned when the spindles is put back in. Any help Thanks, Jack
     
  2. 336flyerfan

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    Plungers should be pushed in all the way and then turn the handle clockwise. The stem is a double threaded stem so if it doesn't shut off correctly the first time, turn the handle 180 degrees and try again. You can get the washers frome Lowes...you'll need to buy the Danco faucet repair kit. You'll find the washer you need along with a bunch of other stuff you'll never use but it's only $4.
     
  3. dersh16

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    Thanks for the great info. One other thing if you don't mind. The plunger on the right side I can push in but can't get it out to change the washer. Other than prying it out with say a straight claw hammer, any tip?? Thanks, Jack
     
  4. 336flyerfan

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    Don't pry anything...the plungers aren't available at this point anymore and are made of bronze. I am in the midst of having plungers reproduced from a set of originals to help solve the majority of issues people are experiencing with this valve. Meanwhile, try Blaster from home depot. You could also sparingly try vinegar...just don't leave it on much longer than 10 minutes and flush with water. You're going to need patience regardless.
     
  5. dersh16

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    I got it out with some heat. I put an acetylene torch on it for a bit and it loosened up. I made the washers with what I could put together from a local hardware and it is up and running with no leaks. Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions Jack
     
  6. Jim Fleming

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    B201 202

    Could I please get that diagram/parts list?
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  7. Friend Dean

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    I am in the process of making one of these Standard Shower Valves operational again -

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    Fully disassembled -

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  8. Friend Dean

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    The Question I have is: There is a Thumb Screw on the Lid, that when removed, allows access to the Little Screw on the Hot Shuttle/Plunger - what does that Little Screw do? Adjustment for travel of Hot Shuttle? Like a Stop Screw?

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    Thank You - I actually downloaded this yesterday in the process of finding this forum.
     
  11. 336flyerfan

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    Standard Valve B201

    Great news for everyone who loves this old valve - Barry Walters now has the plungers for both the hot and cold side available. They work really well but you may need to shim your washers so it shuts off completely due to the wear pattern on your stem. These parts haven't been available in several decades!!!!
     
  12. 336flyerfan

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    The little screw on the hot plunger is an early version of a scald protector.
     
  13. InSearchofAmStdPlunger

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    This is great news that this plungers are now available since I've been waiting 10 years to get a hot and a cold one. I search the Barry Walters site and didn't find any. Can you send me to the link so I can order these? Thanks ahead of time for the heads up!
     
  14. 336flyerfan

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    Goto www.barrywalter.com you'll need to talk with Barry Sr directly at 970 867-3858. The plungers are not listed in his catalog. This company is a first class operation and Barry is a really busy guy (might need to leave a few messages).
     
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    any way I could get that drawing?\
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  16. Lizan

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    Hi, may I have a diagram of this shower faucet? I replaced washers and put all together but looks like not correct, water drips from shower head and handle turns in different direction. I made washers from robber from Home Depot. May be there are originals still somewhere available? I love this old shower and would like to have it yet here for a few more years. I asked a plumber to help me to put it together, he asked me to get a new repair kit, I think he asked me to buy another one somewhere. It is possible to get it yet?
     
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  17. Lizan

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    May I have these 2 diagrams for these two models? I would like to see which model I have to order parts to it.Thanks,
     
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    https://deabath.com/Faucet_and_Fauc...tub_shower_kits/standard_tub_shower_kits.html

    Addendum: I am still not sure from the diagram as to what the difference is between a B201 and a B202. As stated above, the repair kit was improper.
    Here is a link to the schematic for the B 201 and B202.
    American Standard diagrams start on the tenth page of pdf
    http://standardsupplyco.com/site/1591stan/Tub_Shower_Repair_Bath_Accessories_1_of_2.pdf
    R1400 is on the 13th page
    B201/B202 is on the 14th page

    https://terrylove.com/forums/index....faucet-help-before-i-bugger-it-further.48894/
     
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  20. 336flyerfan

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    The difference between B201 and B202 is the size of the valve - both are identical in looks. B202 is the larger one and uses a fine thread plunger and B201 is the smaller one and has a course threaded plunger.
     
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