Christian Garibaldi
New Member
Hello,
I will begin by stating that I feel like I have done a fairly thorough job searching from essentially sea to shining sea in the USA, yet still cannot seem to manage to find a source, let alone a reason for the following lack of the availability in our country to obtain solid brass split ring hangers- or any similar type of pipe support made out of brass. I was curious if anyone here has any insight, or possibly a U.S source for them? There is no shortage of iron, steel, epoxy coated, copper "plated", galvanized etc split ring, van hangers, straps etc. But ones made from solid cast brass seem to be an anomaly here.
The funny/ odd thing is that they are as common as dirt overseas esp in the UK. If you are compelled to see for yourself, do a google search for "brass munsen rings" and scroll through the images, and you will find no shortage of essentially everything we have available, only made from brass (And in mm sizing.... which basically coincides with our copper OD anyway) and every source will link you to a UK outlet, or possibly the foundries that seem to mass produce them in India or China (On sites like Alibaba etc)
I have reached out to Mueller Brass, Apollo, Elkhart, Supplyhouse, Mc Master, Fergusen, Walraven, Wlarich ... the usual suspects, and many other firms that would likely make, import, sell, supply, or even know of them, and surprisingly I keep getting met with a dead end. I contacted a couple of sources in the UK that are manufacturers and the guy at one of them chuckled when I told him that they seem to elude us (Or at least me) here in the U.S.A and his reply was "thats odd.....we literally sell 100 to 200 thousand of them each month to our vendors globally in all sizes. They are in literally every and any plumbing supply section here, from a mom and pop shop to a big box supplier" He indicated that they are nothing fancy or special, the prices are on par with our arguably crappy iron and ferrous ones.... these cost a few bucks each after you do the GBP to USD conversion.
I just thought I would pose the question up here in the remote chance that someone could help or give some insight. Ordering from overseas is possible, but aside from shipping charges likely being cost prohibitive, then you are dealing with customs and who knows what fees and time lines etc. As mundane as an item like this can be, made from brass would logically check off a lot of boxes, aestheitcs, corrosion, eliminate galvanic risk etc.... I can't imagine that I am the only person in the long history of plumbing in the USA that has ever had a need for a simple pipe support made from brass hahahahah.
I will begin by stating that I feel like I have done a fairly thorough job searching from essentially sea to shining sea in the USA, yet still cannot seem to manage to find a source, let alone a reason for the following lack of the availability in our country to obtain solid brass split ring hangers- or any similar type of pipe support made out of brass. I was curious if anyone here has any insight, or possibly a U.S source for them? There is no shortage of iron, steel, epoxy coated, copper "plated", galvanized etc split ring, van hangers, straps etc. But ones made from solid cast brass seem to be an anomaly here.
The funny/ odd thing is that they are as common as dirt overseas esp in the UK. If you are compelled to see for yourself, do a google search for "brass munsen rings" and scroll through the images, and you will find no shortage of essentially everything we have available, only made from brass (And in mm sizing.... which basically coincides with our copper OD anyway) and every source will link you to a UK outlet, or possibly the foundries that seem to mass produce them in India or China (On sites like Alibaba etc)
I have reached out to Mueller Brass, Apollo, Elkhart, Supplyhouse, Mc Master, Fergusen, Walraven, Wlarich ... the usual suspects, and many other firms that would likely make, import, sell, supply, or even know of them, and surprisingly I keep getting met with a dead end. I contacted a couple of sources in the UK that are manufacturers and the guy at one of them chuckled when I told him that they seem to elude us (Or at least me) here in the U.S.A and his reply was "thats odd.....we literally sell 100 to 200 thousand of them each month to our vendors globally in all sizes. They are in literally every and any plumbing supply section here, from a mom and pop shop to a big box supplier" He indicated that they are nothing fancy or special, the prices are on par with our arguably crappy iron and ferrous ones.... these cost a few bucks each after you do the GBP to USD conversion.
I just thought I would pose the question up here in the remote chance that someone could help or give some insight. Ordering from overseas is possible, but aside from shipping charges likely being cost prohibitive, then you are dealing with customs and who knows what fees and time lines etc. As mundane as an item like this can be, made from brass would logically check off a lot of boxes, aestheitcs, corrosion, eliminate galvanic risk etc.... I can't imagine that I am the only person in the long history of plumbing in the USA that has ever had a need for a simple pipe support made from brass hahahahah.